We're aware that some users are experiencing technical issues which the team are working to resolve. See the Community Noticeboard for more info. Thank you for your patience.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Royal Mail Airsure: Compensation refused

Options
I sent a packet (contents value £230) to a private individual in the USA using Royal Mail's Airsure® "service". Like many overseas addressees they use a PO Box number.

I duly paid the correct postage to include the appropriate compensation and was handed my receipt with tracking number: contract complete! I]I run a small postal business and consider myself pretty savvy with all things postal[/I.

I might add this was an eBay sale and Airsure® is one of the services eBay/PayPal insist on!!

The packet was not received. I sent a claim (inc. all paperwork and receipt for the original cost of the item) to RM for. Several weeks later I received a reply stating that although they confirm the item left the UK and the US postal administration confirm it's arrival, they are unable to consider my claim for compensation as my item was addressed to a PO Box. Further thay add: "Please note that Airsure items cannot be posted to a PO Box address or parcel station"
  1. Nowhere on Royal Mail's website on the dedicated pages to Airsure® is this mentioned and
  2. If this is the case why did the Post Office accept my packet ?
[Next stage Customer Services Advisor then Escalated Customer Resolution Team then Postal Review Panel and after that if no success Small Claims Court].



Has this happened to anyone else?
«1

Comments

  • custardy
    custardy Posts: 38,365 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    001uk wrote: »
    I sent a packet (contents value £230) to a private individual in the USA using Royal Mail's Airsure® "service". Like many overseas addressees they use a PO Box number.

    I duly paid the correct postage to include the appropriate compensation and was handed my receipt with tracking number: contract complete! I]I run a small postal business and consider myself pretty savvy with all things postal[/I.

    I might add this was an eBay sale and Airsure® is one of the services eBay/PayPal insist on!!

    The packet was not received. I sent a claim (inc. all paperwork and receipt for the original cost of the item) to RM for. Several weeks later I received a reply stating that although they confirm the item left the UK and the US postal administration confirm it's arrival, they are unable to consider my claim for compensation as my item was addressed to a PO Box. Further thay add: "Please note that Airsure items cannot be posted to a PO Box address or parcel station"
    1. Nowhere on Royal Mail's website on the dedicated pages to Airsure® is this mentioned and
    2. If this is the case why did the Post Office accept my packet ?
    [Next stage Customer Services Advisor then Escalated Customer Resolution Team then Postal Review Panel and after that if no success Small Claims Court].



    Has this happened to anyone else?
    The above standards are monitored by the independent and impartial International Post Corporation to ensure reliable and consistent delivery, which is why Airsure® is only available to selected countries. Please note that Airsure items cannot be posted to a PO box address or parcel station.

    http://www.royalmail.com/delivery/delivery-options-international/airsure/details
  • 001uk
    001uk Posts: 21 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10 Posts Combo Breaker
    Ok found it!
    BUT my Post office accpted it.
  • dalesrider
    dalesrider Posts: 3,447 Forumite
    001uk wrote: »
    Ok found it!
    BUT my Post office accpted it.
    Airsure® can be up to one day faster than Airmail. Your item will receive priority handling at home and overseas and benefits from an online tracking facility so you can check your mail's progress along the way. We work closely with our international partners to ensure and maintain a high quality of service for our customers. For that reason, Airsure® is only available to selected destinations.

    And why would they not given its other features.

    Did you specifically ask at the counter if the package would be insured, given it was going to a PO box ?
    Never ASSUME anything its makes a
    >>> A55 of U & ME <<<
  • Hintza
    Hintza Posts: 19,420 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    I know and in places like South Africa you don't have mail deliveries except to PO Boxes.

    No real help but next time use a courier.
  • 001uk
    001uk Posts: 21 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10 Posts Combo Breaker
    Hintza wrote: »
    I know and in places like South Africa you don't have mail deliveries except to PO Boxes.

    No real help but next time use a courier.

    Indeed. Truble with using a Courier it would be SO expensive I'd never sell anything to a PO Box holder overseas ever again.
    Have since had words with Royal Mail and they've told me to complain to Post Office Counters to make a claim as they incorrectly accepted my letter.
  • visidigi
    visidigi Posts: 6,562 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    The problem here is the Post Office accepted it. Its their job to ensure that they don't accept anything they cant carry where specific added value services are involved. And more importantly, if they shouldn't have accepted it they should have returned it before it left the country.

    To clarify with the OP, you had to take this item to the PO for it to be accepted right? They had to apply the postage, check they serve the country and apply the appropriate labels right?

    If the answer is yes/yes then the RM is responsible.
  • visidigi wrote: »
    If the answer is yes/yes then the RM is responsible.

    The Post Office may be responsible, but not Royal Mail.
    Once it had been accepted by the PO, Royal mail wouldn't have had any reason not to continue with the chosen delivery service as they wouldn't know if the sender had been made aware of the implications of sending to a PO box.
  • visidigi
    visidigi Posts: 6,562 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    The Post Office may be responsible, but not Royal Mail.
    Once it had been accepted by the PO, Royal mail wouldn't have had any reason not to continue with the chosen delivery service as they wouldn't know if the sender had been made aware of the implications of sending to a PO box.

    Making them aware is no difference, it says in the blurb you can't send there.

    Yes ok, its the Post Office who are responsible, who form part of the Royal Mail Group.
  • dalesrider
    dalesrider Posts: 3,447 Forumite
    001uk wrote: »
    Have since had words with Royal Mail and they've told me to complain to Post Office Counters to make a claim as they incorrectly accepted my letter.

    On what basis...

    As I posted. Insurance/compensation is not the only value added extra of this service...
    Are you sure its not just the buyer trying to pull a fast one... Becoming far more of the issue and not the product not arriving. Given you have proof it arrived...

    So once again...
    Did you specifically ask at the counter if the package would be insured, given it was going to a PO box ?
    Never ASSUME anything its makes a
    >>> A55 of U & ME <<<
  • custardy
    custardy Posts: 38,365 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    dalesrider wrote: »
    On what basis...

    As I posted. Insurance/compensation is not the only value added extra of this service...
    Are you sure its not just the buyer trying to pull a fast one... Becoming far more of the issue and not the product not arriving. Given you have proof it arrived...

    So once again...



    It shouldnt have been accepted for a PO box address
    The service isnt available to PO boxes
    Please note that Airsure items cannot be posted to a PO box address or parcel station.
    So should not have been accepted at the PO
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.1K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.6K Spending & Discounts
  • 244K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 598.9K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 176.9K Life & Family
  • 257.3K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.