📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Squirrel chaser

Has anyone got any ideas please. We have a 4 yr old Doberman who is normally well behaved eg recall, sit, stay etc until we go to the park and he gets the scent of squirrels. He runs away and will not take any notice of us, he will not respond to any command, we have tried hiding, offering treats, throwing his ball, nothing works. He will not return until he is ready. Today he almost ran away so far he was almost on the road. If we cannot find a cure for this he will no longer have any time off his lead. He is a big dog so we cannot walk him in the park on his lead, it will just have to be along the street. We can occasionally take him to the beach where he is beautifully behaved, just running around, but never far from us. Any ideas welcomed please.
«13

Comments

  • is he interested in playing with balls or other toys? My mum's dog loves squirrels - we have had a lot of success by distracting her with the chance of a game of 'fetch'
  • mrcol1000
    mrcol1000 Posts: 4,796 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts
    mymy40 wrote: »
    Has anyone got any ideas please. We have a 4 yr old Doberman who is normally well behaved eg recall, sit, stay etc until we go to the park and he gets the scent of squirrels. He runs away and will not take any notice of us, he will not respond to any command, we have tried hiding, offering treats, throwing his ball, nothing works. He will not return until he is ready. Today he almost ran away so far he was almost on the road. If we cannot find a cure for this he will no longer have any time off his lead. He is a big dog so we cannot walk him in the park on his lead, it will just have to be along the street. We can occasionally take him to the beach where he is beautifully behaved, just running around, but never far from us. Any ideas welcomed please.


    I wouldn't take him off the lead until its sorted. Apart from the obvious being hit by a car you could also get in trouble for not being in control of your dog in a a park. Also if the dog fouls while its out of your sight and you do not realise you could be slapped with a fine for fouling and/or prosecuted as the dog should be under your control at all times and the Dog Warden/Park Warden won't accept the excuse that the dog was chasing squirrels.
  • sarabe
    sarabe Posts: 564 Forumite
    You say that your dog is well behaved in terms of recall until you go to the park. This is probably because you have not trained him at the park.


    You need to use a long trailing line so that you can prevent him from running away.

    If he likes to chase squirrels then it should be relatively easy to get him to chase you whilst you run away with his favourite toy tied to a bit of string bobbing along the ground. He is likely to be more successful in catching your toy than he is the squirrels so he may even come to prefer this to the squirrels, especially if you deny him the opportunity to go after squirrels. I'd even suggest finding somewhere that the squirrels don't frequent if that is possible to start with.

    When he grabs the toy play tug briefly and then let him win the toy. He will then either drop it because it is no fun anymore in which case you can pick it up and start the game again.

    He may, if you are really lucky bring the toy back and ask you to play again.

    If he decides it more fun to play with the toy on his own then you will need to produce a second toy and make your toy more exciting than his.

    You will also need to make sure that games with you are highly valued by keeping his toys for these games and not letting him have them on his own.

    Depending on how motivated your dog is to play with you you need to make sure that you end the game with him always wanting more.

    I would do chase, catch and tug three times and then dismiss him (tell him "ok off you go") You keep the toy off course. I would want my dog to be slightly disappointed that I didn't want to play anymore and to hang around in case I changed my mind.

    It will take a while to get to this stage with your fella because he has been having so much fun chasing the squirrels. You are going to have to work hard to compete with that. It is achievable though.

    I would also take him to the park with his dinner and feed him there. No running about obviously just get out of the car, quick wee perhaps, hand feed him his dinner and come home again.

    You need to look at the whole picture and ask yourself what your dog wants and needs in terms of fun, food, possessions, your attention and try to provide these things for him in the park environment instead of him getting them all at home for nothing.
    A dog with a behaviour problem needs help not punishment.
  • suki1964
    suki1964 Posts: 14,313 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    I was going to say the same as sara - long line and back to basics with the recall training
  • Hintza
    Hintza Posts: 19,420 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    This idea will not go down well on here.

    Get out after him and when you catch him give him a good smack and a very firm NO!

    However, don't do this if you have called him and he comes back he will then associate coming back with punishment which is not a great idea.
  • mrcol1000
    mrcol1000 Posts: 4,796 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts
    Hintza wrote: »
    This idea will not go down well on here.

    Get out after him and when you catch him give him a good smack and a very firm NO!

    However, don't do this if you have called him and he comes back he will then associate coming back with punishment which is not a great idea.


    I can not think why smacking your dog would go down badly on a board full of pet lovers.
    Don't smack your dog as you might hurt it but mainly if your dog is terrfied of you it may cause a few problems and just put yourself in your dogs head. Would you really want to come back to someone who smacked you? I know I wouldn't.
  • Hintza
    Hintza Posts: 19,420 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    mrcol1000 wrote: »
    I know I wouldn't.

    You are not a dog!

    We have had this argument before and all i know is that if you don't conform to the majority of "URBAN" pet lovers on this board then you tend to get taken apart on the forum.

    My advice is sound but may not appeal to some, but don't just dismiss it because it upsets your sensibilities.
  • sarabe
    sarabe Posts: 564 Forumite
    Hintza wrote: »
    This idea will not go down well on here.

    Get out after him and when you catch him give him a good smack and a very firm NO!

    However, don't do this if you have called him and he comes back he will then associate coming back with punishment which is not a great idea.

    Hmmm. So why is the squirrel running away from the dog?

    Hey lets teach the dog that we are a predator and we will chase them and harm them when we catch them.

    Sounds like a plan - not!!
    A dog with a behaviour problem needs help not punishment.
  • mrcol1000
    mrcol1000 Posts: 4,796 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts
    Hintza wrote: »
    You are not a dog!

    We have had this argument before and all i know is that if you don't conform to the majority of "URBAN" pet lovers on this board then you tend to get taken apart on the forum.

    My advice is sound but may not appeal to some, but don't just dismiss it because it upsets your sensibilities.


    Maybe because the "urban" pet lovers on the board maybe are better people. I live in the countryside and know exactly what kind of person thinks nothing of wacking their dog/horse/child for doing something wrong and the kind of animals/people which are created by these kind of people.

    Just because something works does not make it right. Hitting an animal to stop them to do something may work but for all the wrong reasons. However your of the mentality that you can not be doing anything wrong and its because we don't understand how to properly train a dog or don't understand countryside ways that we think your wrong. Hopefully eventually someone will witness what you do and report you to the RSCPA.
  • suki1964
    suki1964 Posts: 14,313 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    mrcol1000 wrote: »
    Maybe because the "urban" pet lovers on the board maybe are better people. I.

    How dare you

    Whats it like up there in that ivory tower?
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351.6K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.3K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.9K Spending & Discounts
  • 244.6K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 600K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.2K Life & Family
  • 258.2K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.