Squirrel chaser

mrcol1000

suki1964 wrote: »

Whats it like up there in that ivory tower?

Its nice, also the dogs up here aren't terrifed of their owners.

suki1964

mrcol1000 wrote: »

Its nice, also the dogs up here aren't terrifed of their owners.

I always knew you spouted the biggest load of garbage - now I know why

Hopefully a few more will treat what you have to say with the contempt it deserves

Enjoy the tower

Fire_Fox

mrcol1000 wrote: »

Maybe because the "urban" pet lovers on the board maybe are better people. I live in the countryside and know exactly what kind of person thinks nothing of wacking their dog/horse/child for doing something wrong and the kind of animals/people which are created by these kind of people.

That is a completely ridiculous statement. Some supposed animal lovers who live in the countryside have a funny way of showing their affection, ditto urbanites. There are loads of urban pet owners who keep a large dog in a studio apartments, who don't bother sterilising cats so that they end up permanently pregnant, who let their dogs run loose on a council estate instead of walking them, move house and leave their cat behind.

mrcol1000

Fire_Fox wrote: »

That is a completely ridiculous statement. Some supposed animal lovers who live in the countryside have a funny way of showing their affection, ditto urbanites. There are loads of urban pet owners who keep a large dog in a studio apartments, who don't bother sterilising cats so that they end up permanently pregnant, who let their dogs run loose on a council estate instead of walking them, move house and leave their cat behind.

Not that it really matter but it was Hintza who coined the whole "urban" pet lovers thing pigeoning people into sections. Personally I think there are awful owners living in both the countryside and in the towns usually completely ignorant to the fact they are awful owners. What I really can't stand is some people who live in the country thinking that they can't be criticised because people who live in the towns "don't understand country ways". I am sure the majority of town dewellers inculding those who do not have dogs can appericate why smacking a dog everytime it did something wrong would not be such a good idea.

suki1964

I didnt see Hintza declare that those that live in the countryside were "better people"

Unlike you declared that urban people were

foreign_correspondent

Hintza wrote: »

You are not a dog!

We have had this argument before and all i know is that if you don't conform to the majority of "URBAN" pet lovers on this board then you tend to get taken apart on the forum.

My advice is sound but may not appeal to some, but don't just dismiss it because it upsets your sensibilities.

Is this really about "URBAN" pet lovers? I know people who train their dogs by hitting them, both urban and rural owners - they tend to have aggressive or frightened dogs.

Also, can you really catch a dog? Are you a very fast runner?

Most dogs can run far faster than humans, and by the time you have any chance of catching the dog, the dog will be enjoying a nice game of being chased, and will associate the hitting with you catching it, not with chasing the squirrel.

You will definitely teach it not to let you catch it, which can create far more problems!

mrcol1000

suki1964 wrote: »

I didnt see Hintza declare that those that live in the countryside were "better people"

Unlike you declared that urban people were

I actually didn't. If I did or if it came over that way then I will apologise for that. I was actually responding to Hintza post which suggested that people who live in towns were incorrect to think it was wrong to hit a dog to train it. I actually live in the countryside and so if I thought urban pet owners were better then I would not be inculding myself in that which sort of cocks a leg (or squats as my dog does) to your whole ivory tower thing.

suki1964

mrcol1000 wrote: »

I actually didn't. If I did or if it came over that way then I will apologise for that. I was actually responding to Hintza post which suggested that people who live in towns were incorrect to think it was wrong to hit a dog to train it. I actually live in the countryside and so if I thought urban pet owners were better then I would not be inculding myself in that which sort of cocks a leg (or squats as my dog does) to your whole ivory tower thing.

SO

Maybe because the "urban" pet lovers on the board maybe are better people

isnt saying urbanites are better?

Looks that way to me. And does it matter where you live? Singling out a group of people to be "better" then another in plain insulting

But I will accept your apology

And for what its worth, although I dont advocate the hitting of animals, my partner does and he has hit my dog hard enough to stop him in his tracks that put paid to the habit he developed of jumping out in front of cars, something I was struggling to train him out of.

A one off short sharp shock can work, same as it can work with a child. Im not saying batter the animal (or child) nor do I think Hintza is either.

In my situation, although it was something I would never have done myself, Im glad it was done, There are no footpaths and with quarry lorries up and down the lanes as well as farm traffic, it was getting that I was too scared to walk the dog incase he managed to pull free in front of a moving vehicle. He walked fine in towns - where there were foot paths

mrcol1000

suki1964 wrote: »

SO isnt saying urbanites are better?

Looks that way to me. And does it matter where you live? Singling out a group of people to be "better" then another in plain insulting

I agree competely. Its just as well I never did that.

mymy40

Thank you all very much for your replies. Today we went to the park and kept him on a long lead until we were well away from the trees where most of the squirrels are. I took your advise and took a few balls with me, as although he loves to run after a ball, he very rarely brings it back, he just runs around with it in his mouth. Every time he seemed to be looking at the trees, or following a scent intently, we would change the direction of our walk and call him to play ball. We also recalled him several times and give him treats when we were near the areas that he was likely to run away. It worked a treat and we all enjoyed our walk. We would never need to smack him, just telling him he is a naughty boy and not bothering with him really upsets him. Hope we can keep it up. Do squirrels hirbernate?