I may have went on a several hour drive in the dark with just sidelights on. Q about penalty points

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  • molerat
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    Another possibility is automatic headlights, a hire car will likely be quite new so a distinct possibility especially as op stated they were able to use main beam.
  • Deanston
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    Cornucopia wrote: »
    Given that the OP has expressed unwarranted concern about their position, this probably isn't very helpful.

    There is no mechanism for a prosecution for driving with inappropriate lighting on a vehicle other than by a Police stop at the time of the offence, followed by a notice issued by those same Police at the time of the stop.


    6 Months from the notice of prosecution that the OP has not received?

    It’s not wrong thought is it?

    Six months for any summary only offence and a NIP isn’t required.
  • oldagetraveller
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    "So you actually notice them more than the ones with runway landing lights?
    Isn't that supporting the idea that huge amounts of lights are not necessary to be seen? "


    No, what about the rear? No lights showing when only with front fairy lights are on. Threfore no lights necessary at the rear by your determination. No point in having rear fog lights then?
    It's acceptable to be seen from the front and not the rear then?

    Or do you take offence at them being called fairy lights which most look like?:rotfl:
  • Deanston
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    sevenhills wrote: »
    Do you mean when visibility is seriously reduced, generally when you cannot see for more than 100 metres (328 feet).


    I think its daft when people have their headlights on, when they are not needed.

    It’s not very often visible is something bad you can’t see the moon.
  • Deanston
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    Tarambor wrote: »
    In a 30 limit. In a NSL and on a motorway you do.

    If someone cannot tell they've not got their headlights on, especially in the dark, they need their license taken off them. They clearly don't take any notice of the indication light on the dashboard that tells you whether you have the dip or high beam on nor take any notice of the fact there's not a pool of light on the road ahead.

    Does the law say 30 mph or these roads generally are 30mph?
  • sevenhills
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    No, what about the rear? No lights showing when only with front fairy lights are on. Threfore no lights necessary at the rear by your determination. No point in having rear fog lights then?
    It's acceptable to be seen from the front and not the rear then?

    Or do you take offence at them being called fairy lights which most look like?:rotfl:


    Fog light were introduced when car lights could be really poor, some LED lights seem brighter than fog lights.
  • Iceweasel
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    sevenhills wrote: »
    Do you mean when visibility is seriously reduced, generally when you cannot see for more than 100 metres (328 feet).


    I think its daft when people have their headlights on, when they are not needed.

    Of course some folks think they are never needed during the day - no matter what the visibility is.

    Laws are made to protect us all - from stupid people.

    That's why we have speed limits for example.

    Personally I think it's daft to have a speed limit on motorways - but without a limit some fools will drive too fast for the conditions or their ability.
  • TuppenceWorth
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    OP...
    Nothing will happen. No phone calls. Nothing through the post. You were not pulled over by cops.

    You can sleep well and forget about it. Good evening
  • Cornucopia
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    edited 6 December 2018 at 5:57PM
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    Deanston wrote: »
    It’s not wrong thought is it?

    Six months for any summary only offence and a NIP isn’t required.

    It depends on what you are trying to tell the OP about their specific scenario.

    If it is that because they weren't stopped by Police they have nothing to worry about then that's fine. Anything else is either wrong or not relevant.

    We're here to help.


    As you suggested in post #46, the rule is this:
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    You MUST:-

    - ensure all sidelights and rear registration plate lights are lit between sunset and sunrise

    - use headlights at night, except on a road which has lit street lighting. These roads are generally restricted to a speed limit of 30 mph (48 km/h) unless otherwise specified

    - use headlights when visibility is seriously reduced (see Rule 226).

    Night (the hours of darkness) is defined as the period between half an hour after sunset and half an hour before sunrise).

    Laws RVLR regs 3, 24, & 25, (In Scotland - RTRA 1984 sect 82 (as amended by NRSWA, para 59 of sched 8))
  • Deanston
    Deanston Posts: 84 Forumite
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    Cornucopia wrote: »
    It depends on what you are trying to tell the OP about their specific scenario.

    If it is that because they weren't stopped by Police they have nothing to worry about then that's fine. Anything else is either wrong or not relevant.

    We're here to help.


    As you suggested in post #46, the rule is this:

    It's not wrong, not being stopped at the time would stop a prosecution.

    It's not going to happen but there was no need to stop him at the time.

    I suggest you read up on the subject before you comment any further.
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