Schools providing Sanitary protection

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  • Comms69
    Comms69 Posts: 14,229 Forumite
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    phryne wrote: »
    OK, so I'm on ignore ;) and you don't like that forum user either.
    Any others?

    Echo chambers are all the rage I suppose
  • Comms69
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    culpepper wrote: »
    Well no it really doesn't.
    Sanitary towel and tampon producers could easily provide the needed protection for free and as I think I said before , it is likely that they could claim it as a tax break. They get every girl who uses the product in the country interested in theirs as early as 10 years old and if the product is a goodun, those girls will buy the equivalent product in the shops when they are eventually earners for the next 30 years or so.
    A form could be filled in by the parent to apply for the provision which might put many non needy people off anyway due to the traceability of the request.

    That doesn’t make sense. There is no traceability; GDPR will mean this information would never be revealed.

    As for the companies providing it; do you not think that might result in price rises?
  • Ames
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    Just a couple of practical points.

    People are assuming that the girls with heavy periods are rare. I know when this subject has been discussed before there are many of us who had very heavy and/or long periods as teenagers. I started when I was 10 and went on the pill at 15 so I could run packs together and not have a period for 12 weeks. At that point my periods were lasting nine days and although they were light at the end they were very heavy at the start. It's not unusual for teenage girls to have irregular heavy periods until their bodies settle down.

    Also, pads and especially tampons need to be changed every four hours due to the risk of toxic shock syndrome. I think the cheaper calculations might not be taking into account that frequency of changing.

    I can't help thinking that a lot of people are saying the equivalent of 'why on earth can't people manage on three sheets of izal a day for their toileting needs'. Some people might be able to do that, but bodily functions vary wildly amongst people, and even for the same person over time.
    Unless I say otherwise 'you' means the general you not you specifically.
  • culpepper
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    Comms69 wrote: »
    That doesn’t make sense. There is no traceability; GDPR will mean this information would never be revealed.

    As for the companies providing it; do you not think that might result in price rises?

    The forms could be along the same lines as those used to request free school lunches. I assume that they are not 'secret' as such from other agencies wishing to provide for instance uniform grants and I imagine whatever may be the 'rules' , the government agencies dealing with benefits likely know every kind of benefit available and claimed by their population..



    As far as the prices go, a company that would be able to claim the giving of products for a tax break, already has the extra money AND an enviable target of free advertising to children..

    ..but carry on ... I am intrigued to read more of your obstacles :T
  • Comms69
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    culpepper wrote: »
    The forms could be along the same lines as those used to request free school lunches. I assume that they are not 'secret' as such from other agencies wishing to provide for instance uniform grants and I imagine whatever may be the 'rules' , the government agencies dealing with benefits likely know every kind of benefit available and claimed by their population..



    As far as the prices go, a company that would be able to claim the giving of products for a tax break, already has the extra money AND an enviable target of free advertising to children..

    ..but carry on ... I am intrigued to read more of your obstacles :T

    Uhm no, certain depts share information, others don’t. It’s complicated network so but it’s not freely available.

    Actually it seems like a reasonable idea, as long as it’s not forced.
  • System
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    I was very fortunate to have a mum that provided for all my sanitary needs I first started in year 5 and she made sure i had a little kit of pads, bags and wipes.

    it saddens me that there are girls in this country who for whatever reason do not have this support.

    i'll never begrudge them being given free sanitary protection.
  • phryne
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    I think the issue is more whether schools should be providing free towels and tampons to all their female students gratis. This seems unrealistic and unnecessary. Given the size of some comprehensive schools (1000-2000 girls) and the fact that some are claiming to need packets and packets per day,

    1) where are the schools supposed to be storing all these items,
    and 2) how are they going to police it?
  • System
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    Ames wrote: »
    Just a couple of practical points.

    People are assuming that the girls with heavy periods are rare. I know when this subject has been discussed before there are many of us who had very heavy and/or long periods as teenagers. I started when I was 10 and went on the pill at 15 so I could run packs together and not have a period for 12 weeks. At that point my periods were lasting nine days and although they were light at the end they were very heavy at the start. It's not unusual for teenage girls to have irregular heavy periods until their bodies settle down.

    Also, pads and especially tampons need to be changed every four hours due to the risk of toxic shock syndrome. I think the cheaper calculations might not be taking into account that frequency of changing.

    I can't help thinking that a lot of people are saying the equivalent of 'why on earth can't people manage on three sheets of izal a day for their toileting needs'. Some people might be able to do that, but bodily functions vary wildly amongst people, and even for the same person over time.
    My periods were so heavy i ended up aneamic, i tried birth control to help, went on the implant and i literally bled 24/28 days every month. I was a heavy flow too, i was using nighttime pads and lost count of how many i got through. It certainly cost more than £3 a month
  • Cyclamen
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    I know my parents went without things on the shopping list to make sure i had sanitary protection. Mum started by trying me on the 'own brand' versions of the time but my cycle was horrific.. even then a night time pad would last only a lesson.. i'd sit on my coat in double lessons in case of leaks as some teachers wouldn't let you pop out. So yes the quality of the pads matters a lot.

    Heavy periods are common..along with all the extras of headaches, sweats, diarrhoea. A wad of toilet paper would be laughable for some if it weren't so sad.

    As a kid I was irregular and got caught out and would have to ask in the office. Yes it was embarrassing. I also hated asking at home..

    When I was a teacher I kept a range of supplies in a bag in my lab. I used them when teaching menstruation in yr7 but also made it clear the kids could ask for a 'dip in the bag' anytime they needed although please try to have your own. I'd tell them to help themselves from a box in the cupboard and go sort something in a drawer elsewhere. I had all ages from yr7 to upper sixth.. the frequent 'pst miss can i dip in the bag' girls would be given a few packs no questions asked. Other teachers did the same, the school office and nurse also.



    We also as staff gave shower gels, roll-ons and toothbrushes out when we suspected they were needed. It was usually handled sensitively and quietly by a member of staff the student seemed most comfy with.. as the science teacher and a female it was often delegated to me. Uniform could be bought from the office 'lost property' after a set time and for some a price was never asked.

    When we donate to food bank everything is almost always 'tesco basics' brand as thats what we mostly have at home it doesn't matter so much with a tin of spuds but we do put in some branded sanipads as i honestly think for some the brand matters to quality of life and its better to have too high a pad than too low. and the staff are always pleased.

    This isn't new its just only now being talked about openly.
  • phryne
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    My periods were so heavy i ended up aneamic, i tried birth control to help, went on the implant and i literally bled 24/28 days every month. I was a heavy flow too, i was using nighttime pads and lost count of how many i got through. It certainly cost more than £3 a month

    I think in cases like this there is a strong argument for the pads to be available on prescription. You should also have been referred to a specialist?
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