Car Insurance Claim Nightmare

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My 18 year old daughter was involved in an RTA. It was not her fault and the driver admitted responsibility at the scene. We have photos and a witness statement in our favour. My daughter and her passenger were taken to hospital. My daughters car is a write off (most likely) Her insurance company recovered the car (don't know where it is) and took her statement in order to go after the 3rd party. Three weeks on we are being told her claim is with the underwriters as she didn't tell them she works 4 hours on the odd Saturday. She is a full time student. She was not asked about work when she took out the policy and whilst I understand it is our responsibility to check paperwork it was a genuine mistake and if we were trying to be fraudulent we wouldn't have declared it on the statement! I have called the insurance company every other day and they just keep saying there's no timeline on the decision. My daughter is incurring travelling costs, has no car and we are totally in limbo. Please can someone offer some advice, we have never claimed on insurance before.:(
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  • uk1
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    The web site of the insurers should have a page on how to register a complaint. Often registering a complaint will nudge progress. The Saturday job shouldn't be a factor in the claim. The basis of the complaint should be simply that the insurers are failing to progress the issue and the delay is causing unnecessary and avoidable hardship.

    Good luck.
  • sheramber
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    Was the accident when shew as travelling to/from her Saturday job?

    Was she covered for commuting?
  • Oraclepam
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    No she does not drive to her Saturday job as it is just down the road. She was on her way to the gym.
  • Quentin
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    As it seems liability is not disputed (but there's an issue tobe resolved over whether or not her insurance is valid then she could consider cancelling the claim against her policy and pursuing the third party insurer to deal with the claim

    They won't be interested in her issue with her own insurer, and if there's no dispute over liability will sort out her claim and provide a replacement car till the claim is settled

    She wouldn't have any excess to pay going that route.

    The outcome of the issue with her insurer can then be dealt with aside from the car getting repaired or replaced
  • Oraclepam
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    Quentin wrote: »
    As it seems liability is not disputed (but there's an issue tobe resolved over whether or not her insurance is valid then she could consider cancelling the claim against her policy and pursuing the third party insurer to deal with the claim

    They won't be interested in her issue with her own insurer, and if there's no dispute over liability will sort out her claim and provide a replacement car till the claim is settled

    She wouldn't have any excess to pay going that route.

    The outcome of the issue with her insurer can then be dealt with aside from the car getting repaired or replaced
    Thank you Quentin. I did think about this but how can I cancel the claim with her insurer when they have had the car for nearly 3 weeks. We don't even know where it is and they wont tell us if it has even been looked at. I did initially contact the 3rd party but they were so slow and unhelpful and didn't even send out paperwork to the 3rd party for days (as we later found out) and we needed to get the car removed from the accident site. Initially our insurer were great and arranged immediate recovery. Since then they have not even called me. We are doing all the work. Also, the 3rd party admitted responsibility at the scene but is back tracking now even though we have an independent witness. It is such a nightmare and I fear it could ruin us financially.
  • Quentin
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    Cancelling the claim shouldn't be an issue, though if her insurer has incurred costs then they would have to be reimbursed.

    An alternative for her to consider is using a claim handling company.

    They would deal only with the third party insurer and her insurance status would not be an issue

    The issue though maybe that liability is not cut and dried (the other side's roadside admission won't count!)
  • uk1
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    Oraclepam wrote: »
    Thank you Quentin. I did think about this but how can I cancel the claim with her insurer when they have had the car for nearly 3 weeks. We don't even know where it is and they wont tell us if it has even been looked at. I did initially contact the 3rd party but they were so slow and unhelpful and didn't even send out paperwork to the 3rd party for days (as we later found out) and we needed to get the car removed from the accident site. Initially our insurer were great and arranged immediate recovery. Since then they have not even called me. We are doing all the work. Also, the 3rd party admitted responsibility at the scene but is back tracking now even though we have an independent witness. It is such a nightmare and I fear it could ruin us financially.

    I do not wish to engage with arguments with other posters and you are free to accept whatever advice you wish, but it is imho not the best approach to consider cancelling your claim now and making a belated claim on the third party.

    For a start, you do need the get the existing cover clarfied either way and if you do not resolve this with your insurer now, you will not know whether there is cover for your daughter or not. Presumably you want to konw so that she doesn't drive whilst uninsured. It is most unlikely thay cover will be refused simply because she has a Saturday job even more so as the accident wasn't related to travel to that job as she wasn't using the carfor that journey. Refusing cover would be unfair.

    Secondly, you do not know whether the third parties insurers will pay out because - apart from general uncertainty with all claims the third-party technically probably invalidated their insurance by admitting liability and in effect accepting liability on behalf of their insurers without their authority. It is an express clause in most policies that policy holders must not admit liability for causing an accident.

    As I said, do as you wish but simply complaining at this stage may clear the both the current issue up and the unresolved issue as to whether she is covered on not in a few days. It also avoids the risk of cancelling your existing claim on the presumption things will go smoothly with the other party's insurers only which you do not yet know for certain. A complaint may trigger a resolution in a feqw days, and if it doesn't then you can consider other alternatives.

    Good luck.
  • Quentin
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    uk1 wrote: »
    I do not wish to engage with arguments with other posters and you are free to accept whatever advice you wish, but it is imho not the best approach to consider cancelling your claim now and making a belated claim on the third party.

    For a start, you do need the get the existing cover clarfied either way and if you do not resolve this with your insurer now, you will not know whether there is cover for your daughter or not. Presumably you want to konw so that she doesn't drive whilst uninsured. It is most unlikely thay cover will be refused simply because she has a Saturday job even more so as the accident wasn't related to travel to that job as she wasn't using the carfor that journey. Refusing cover would be unfair.

    Secondly, you do not know whether the third parties insurers will pay out because - apart from general uncertainty with all claims the third-party technically probably invalidated their insurance by admitting liability and in effect accepting liability on behalf of their insurers without their authority. It is an express clause in most policies that policy holders must not admit liability for causing an accident. .......
    Unless this incident took place earlier than 2013 then there's no question a claim against the the third party be deemed "belated'. You have 6 years to claim for damage.

    Whether or not the other side's roadside admission has any effect on their policy is irrelevant to the innocent party!

    (The insurer would pay out if liable! Any problems regarding the roadside admission is between the third party insurer and their policyholder)

    The issue regarding whether or not the OPs daughter has cover or not is separate to this claim being settled by the liable third party - and if it is resolved as being the worst case scenario would have no affect the claim being dealt with by the responsible third party insurer

    And if an AMC will take this on, then things would start moving immediately!
  • uk1
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    Quentin wrote: »
    Unless this incident took place earlier than 2013 then there's no question a claim against the the third party be deemed "belated'. You have 6 years to claim for damage.

    Whether or not the other side's roadside admission has any effect on their policy is irrelevant to the innocent party!

    (The insurer would pay out if liable! Any problems regarding the roadside admission is between the third party insurer and their policyholder)

    The issue regarding whether or not the OPs daughter has cover or not is separate to this claim being settled by the liable third party - and if it is resolved as being the worst case scenario would have no affect the claim being dealt with by the responsible third party insurer

    And if an AMC will take this on, then things would start moving immediately!

    I used the word "belated" because the main complaint of the OP is that it has so far taken three weeks and that hardship is being caused, and your suggestions doesn't sound like a way of speeding the process up. Quite the reverse. My suggestion should expose any problems with the claim fairly quickly.

    If the OP follows your advice they could find themselves several weeks or months down the line with risking a claim turned down by the TP insurers for whatever reason they might choose; a cancelled claim with her own insurers and a bill for the repair to her car and a garage looking for someone to pay storage charges that her insurers have been told they are off the hook for - and she will still not know whether her daughter has insurance.

    You say that the TP's admission is irrelevant, but that is only true if the TP or the insurer pays up but if not then if the OP wishes to go to court if the insurers and insured continue to be uncooperative.

    A complaint normally nudges an almost immedicate and prompt review of the file and a phone call within a few days to discuss resolution in order to avoid formal onward expesnive conplaint.

    I'm sure if the OP prefers your advice they will take it and either way they have my good wishes.
  • Oraclepam
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    Thank you to everyone for your help.
    I think we may go down the complaints route for now as I really can't see them cancelling her claim over something so minor but that said I understand they could. I also understand that insurance companies always say to never admit blame but thankfully we have a witness.
    It's the being in limbo that is frustrating. We can't get her a new car whilst ongoing and even if we could we don't know if she is insured. We are not entitled to a courtesy car unless car is repairable (99.9% sure it isn't) and as I said they wont even tell me if the car has been looked at. I have since read extremely worrying reviews about this company. Surely there must be a timeline on a decision? Also, if we were to cancel the claim how would we know what costs the insurers have incurred? Are they going to charge us for a car recovery even though they are the ones holding up the process? Surely they would have to notify us of this? Sorry about all the questions but you guys seem to be very knowledgeable. Thanks
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