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    • davilown
    • By davilown 17th Feb 09, 11:27 PM
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    Afprb 2009
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    • 17th Feb 09, 11:27 PM
    Afprb 2009 17th Feb 09 at 11:27 PM
    Does anyone know when the Armed Forces Pay Review Body reports to Parliament? It get's later and later each year ( though not a major problem as they pay the increase from Apr).
    Just get the feeling we will feel the brunt of the economic crisis this government has put us in.
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    • Alias_Omega
    • By Alias_Omega 18th Feb 09, 4:28 PM
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    • 18th Feb 09, 4:28 PM
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    • 18th Feb 09, 4:28 PM
    Plenty of discussion of it on Pprune, Arrse etc.

    Not really been a topic on here, but 3% or more i hope.

    • gt568
    • By gt568 18th Feb 09, 8:09 PM
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    • 18th Feb 09, 8:09 PM
    Pork passing window at 1000ft....
    Down with the signature fascists!!
    • davilown
    • By davilown 18th Feb 09, 8:34 PM
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    • 18th Feb 09, 8:34 PM
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    • 18th Feb 09, 8:34 PM
    Three % would be great although I fancy it's delayed due to 'people' changing increases by splitting them ie Apr 1.5, sept 1.2% etc.

    Nothing like a bit of political interference especially when they are being hauled over the coals for their second home expense claims
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    • martinbuckley
    • By martinbuckley 23rd Feb 09, 4:23 AM
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    • 23rd Feb 09, 4:23 AM
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    • 23rd Feb 09, 4:23 AM
    Just get the feeling we will feel the brunt of the economic crisis this government has put us in.
    Originally posted by davilown
    To be honest, I'm just thankful I'm in a secure job at the moment the way the rest of the country is suffering. Anything above 0% is a bonus in these harsh times.
    • ICATQ
    • By ICATQ 23rd Feb 09, 8:43 PM
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    • 23rd Feb 09, 8:43 PM
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    • 23rd Feb 09, 8:43 PM
    I think someone needs to fill this post sharpish !!

    http://jobs.timesonline.co.uk/job/362666/appointment-of-chair
  • roger ramjet
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    • 24th Feb 09, 11:32 AM
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    • 24th Feb 09, 11:32 AM
    Interesting to note that in 2007, the report wasn't published until 1st March. At the time is was considered to be long overdue. I would suggest this be a backstop to work to - so hopefully we will hear something this week.
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  • treble_b
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    • 25th Feb 09, 10:08 PM
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    • 25th Feb 09, 10:08 PM
    1 Mar maybe accurate as that is when the revised JSP 752 is being released.
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  • roger ramjet
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    • 26th Feb 09, 11:27 AM
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    • 26th Feb 09, 11:27 AM
    That makes sense. Of course, the announcement could come tomorrow ahead of the revised JSP 752 being published.
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  • tartanterra
    Of course, whilst trying to remain optimistic...........Could it be that the pay rise is announced on a day where there are no deaths in Theatre and a "big" story can "bury" it on the national news?

    Oh dear, I'm starting to sound cynical!
    Nothing is foolproof, as fools are so ingenious!
  • roger ramjet
    Very late now - what on earth is going on?

    Why not some common courtesy to explain why the report is so late this year!
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  • roger ramjet
    Pay Award 09 - Some News
    I know there is already a thread on this, but wanted to highlight an update in a separate thread.

    I have just spoken to someone within Pol Pay & Charges in London to find out when the award is going to be published. The report has been written and was submitted to Government "some weeks ago." They are now considering it alongside other reviews and an announcement is expected shortly - but no firm commitment on the date as yet.

    What this means, I am not sure. I thought that the purpose of having the AFPRB was for an independent assessment which the Government rubber-stamped - so worrying that they have sat on it for some time.
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  • roger ramjet
    Just written to my local MP...

    Sir,

    Normally around mid-February, the pay award for the armed forces for the forthcoming year is published following recommendations by the Armed Forces Pay Review Board (AFPRB). At time of writing, there has yet to be an announcement on the pay award, and we remain in the dark as to when an announcement would be made. As I sure you will appreciate, this has aroused a certain amount of suspicion amongst my colleagues as to why no information is forthcoming. Such is the level of cynisim surrounding the Government, that many feel the award is going to be poor at the Government are waiting on an opportunity to "bury bad news" to publish the announcement. I have been informed that the AFPRB submitted their report to Government "some weeks ago." As the Government normally accepts the boards findings and recommendations, I am curious as to why they would be holding back on the announcement. I would be most grateful if you could look into this matter on behalf of the armed forces.
    Many thanks.
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    • strong96
    • By strong96 3rd Mar 09, 9:51 AM
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    they gave all the money to the banks and now are trying to find out what costs they can cut for the forces, well thats my opinion anyway, after all armed forces can't strike so we have to put up with the crap
  • roger ramjet
    Just had a reply from my MP - he is going to take the matter up with the MOD.
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  • mitchaa
    With wages set to stagnate everywhere else would it be wise for the government to announce generous pay rises for the armed forces?

  • tartanterra
    With wages set to stagnate everywhere else would it be wise for the government to announce generous pay rises for the armed forces?
    Originally posted by mitchaa
    It would be all too easy for the government to refuse a pay rise to the Armed Forces every time they are skint. We have no federation or union to represent us, or fight our corner.

    That is why the AFPRB, as an independent body, makes reccommendations to the government on Armed Forces pay levels.

    The government can refuse to honour the reccommendations , but it still has to publish them, under FOI rules.:rolleyes:

    They should publish it now, and if they aren't going to honour it, they will have to justify the decision in Parliament. This will be extremely contensious, as no government has refused to honour it before!:rolleyes:
    Last edited by tartanterra; 03-03-2009 at 8:00 PM.
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    • davilown
    • By davilown 3rd Mar 09, 11:48 PM
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    With wages set to stagnate everywhere else would it be wise for the government to announce generous pay rises for the armed forces?
    Originally posted by mitchaa
    What wages have stagnated? In the private sector yes they have but then they have enjoyed higher increases than the public sector over the last 10 years. NHS have had a 2.4% rise this year, Police and fire have have a three year package agreed.
    I think that we will see a rise of about 3.2% including a rise in X-factor but they wil try to release it at a point where something bigger will hide it from the news. No time like the present then!
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  • mitchaa
    What wages have stagnated? In the private sector yes they have but then they have enjoyed higher increases than the public sector over the last 10 years. NHS have had a 2.4% rise this year, Police and fire have have a three year package agreed.
    I think that we will see a rise of about 3.2% including a rise in X-factor but they wil try to release it at a point where something bigger will hide it from the news. No time like the present then!
    Originally posted by davilown
    That was last years increases as far as im aware, and im not sure if any company would have had pay rises awarded for FY 09/10 as, as you'll know inflation based pay awards are normally implemented in the new FY, i.e April.

    Wages are set to stagnate for millions this year according to this article, hence my point about wage stagnation due to low inflation (RPI)..

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/recession/4681597/Pay-freezes-for-workers-as-inflation-hits-lowest-level-for-50-years-experts-warn.html

    • Thumper7
    • By Thumper7 4th Mar 09, 2:13 PM
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    X Factor
    As far as I am aware the X Factor is only reviewed every five years. The last one was 2007, the next review is 2012.
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