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    • Ddrago
    • By Ddrago 5th Dec 18, 5:57 PM
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    I may have went on a several hour drive in the dark with just sidelights on. Q about penalty points
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    • 5th Dec 18, 5:57 PM
    I may have went on a several hour drive in the dark with just sidelights on. Q about penalty points 5th Dec 18 at 5:57 PM
    Hi
    I had a hire car for work and had to drive in the early hours of the morning. I thought the headlights were on but I have realised that I may have had only the sidelights on. I'm worried about the potential consequences of this. Is it possible in could get penalty points multiple times from the one journey?
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    • Deanston
    • By Deanston 6th Dec 18, 9:12 PM
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    Aiding and abetting is only applicable to indictable offences. Most of those above are not.
    Originally posted by Car 54
    Doesn't really matter though does it?

    No lights isn't indictable and doesn't need a NIP.
    • Cornucopia
    • By Cornucopia 6th Dec 18, 9:18 PM
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    Aiding and abetting is only applicable to indictable offences. Most of those above are not.
    Originally posted by Car 54
    Okay.

    Not my words, but those of the CPS.

    https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/road-traffic-offences
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    • Car 54
    • By Car 54 6th Dec 18, 9:58 PM
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    Okay.

    Not my words, but those of the CPS.

    https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/road-traffic-offences
    Originally posted by Cornucopia
    Which particular part of that vast document do you consider relevant?
    • Cornucopia
    • By Cornucopia 6th Dec 18, 10:01 PM
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    Which particular part of that vast document do you consider relevant?
    Originally posted by Car 54
    The words "or aiding and abetting any of the above".

    They only appear once.
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    • Car 54
    • By Car 54 7th Dec 18, 8:06 AM
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    The words "or aiding and abetting any of the above".

    They only appear once.
    Originally posted by Cornucopia
    Not for the first time, the CPS policy seems at odds with the law. Accessories and Abettors Act 1861, section 8.
    • DCFC79
    • By DCFC79 7th Dec 18, 8:24 AM
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    I shouldnt worry about it OP, I see loads of drivers with either no lights on, just side lights on or 1 working headlight and they aren't caught.

    In future familiarise yourself with lights etc.
    Last edited by DCFC79; 07-12-2018 at 8:32 AM.
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