Fee to transfer DB pension to SIPP

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Hi
I have been researching IFA fees for transfer advice in relation to my DB pension (CETV of £750,000), and wondered if anyone had any advice. Most specialists seem to charge around 1% of the value, but have not come across any flat fixed fees apart from one, First Equitable, costing £1450 up front for the report, whether positive or negative, and if positive a further £950 to implement the transfer, with no ongoing servicing obligation. This seems ludicrously cheap compared to everyone else - would welcome your thoughts and any recommendations.
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  • Albermarle
    Albermarle Posts: 22,409 Forumite
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    In case you are not aware many pension providers will not accept DB transfers , if the IFA recommendation is negative . Legally it should be OK if the IFA was qualified etc but many large pension providers will just not touch anything where there is a chance of some blowback at some point in the future .
  • drphila
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    stocklord wrote: »
    Hi
    First Equitable, costing £1450 up front for the report, whether positive or negative, and if positive a further £950 to implement the transfer, This seems ludicrously cheap compared to everyone else - would welcome your thoughts and any recommendations.
    Thanks.


    Used them about a year ago and they were fine but with me there was a clear case for transferring out. We had a detailed phone call before I engaged them during which both parties agreed in principle that this was probably likely to be their recommendation.
  • soulsaver
    soulsaver Posts: 6,007 Forumite
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    stocklord wrote: »
    Hi
    I have been researching IFA fees for transfer advice in relation to my DB pension (CETV of £750,000), and wondered if anyone had any advice. Most specialists seem to charge around 1% of the value, but have not come across any flat fixed fees apart from one, First Equitable, costing £1450 up front for the report, whether positive or negative, and if positive a further £950 to implement the transfer, with no ongoing servicing obligation. This seems ludicrously cheap compared to everyone else - would welcome your thoughts and any recommendations.
    Thanks.

    FYI

    Some SIPP providers will accept an insistent client irrespective of a negative report from an IFA. Interactive Investor and HL won't I believe, but AJ Bell does, amongst others.

    It's a while since I checked so DYOR.
  • sandsy
    sandsy Posts: 1,720 Forumite
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    drphila wrote: »
    Used them about a year ago and they were fine but with me there was a clear case for transferring out. We had a detailed phone call before I engaged them during which both parties agreed in principle that this was probably likely to be their recommendation.

    Those sort of pre-engagement chats can't happen any more following intervention from the regulator.

    Why are you interested in transferring? Again, referencing the regulator, they believe that most people should stay in a DB scheme.
  • ukdw
    ukdw Posts: 284 Forumite
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    Personally I wasn't too worried about getting the cheapest initial transfer fee as it is only a one off fee. I have found that the whole pension pot value regularly moves up or down more than the value of the transfer fee - sometimes in a single day. I was much more interested in keeping ongoing advisor and platform fees down.

    Another point to bear in mind in relation to transfer fees split between up front and implementation is that in my case the up front part was post tax whereas the transfer part was pre tax. So in the case of the £1,450 / £950 figures quoted the £950 part would only really cost £760 post 20% tax or even less if higher rates of tax (like 40% or 55%) are expected in retirement.
  • Malthusian
    Malthusian Posts: 10,969 Forumite
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    stocklord wrote: »
    Most specialists seem to charge around 1% of the value, but have not come across any flat fixed fees apart from one, First Equitable, costing £1450 up front for the report, whether positive or negative, and if positive a further £950 to implement the transfer, with no ongoing servicing obligation. This seems ludicrously cheap compared to everyone else - would welcome your thoughts and any recommendations.
    Thanks.

    Authorised for just over a year. No requirement for ongoing servicing indicates a devil-may-care attitude as it significantly increases the risk to the adviser. The website talks big but in reality it's a one-man band, Samuel Hulson, who appears to have no history on the FCA register prior to 2016. I see no smoking guns but proceed with extreme caution.

    What investments have they proposed you transfer into?

    Why do you want to transfer?
  • Joey_Soap
    Joey_Soap Posts: 410 Forumite
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    Malthusian wrote: »
    Authorised for just over a year. No requirement for ongoing servicing indicates a devil-may-care attitude as it significantly increases the risk to the adviser. The website talks big but in reality it's a one-man band, Samuel Hulson, who appears to have no history on the FCA register prior to 2016. I see no smoking guns but proceed with extreme caution.

    What investments have they proposed you transfer into?

    Why do you want to transfer?
    None of that's going to matter though, if all you need is a letter confirming you took the required advice, is it? Perhaps you have a point if you're looking for a longer term relationship.
  • [Deleted User]
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    Thanks for all the responses, I will go with a personal recommendation which is more expensive, but with peace of mind. Once I have set up the SIPP I intend to use various brokers/platforms to trade, can anyone recommend a decent investment spreadsheet to monitor a portfolio?
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 116,558 Forumite
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    Once I have set up the SIPP I intend to use various brokers/platforms to trade, can anyone recommend a decent investment spreadsheet to monitor a portfolio?

    Why would you want to split over different platforms?
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
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