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Are npower delaying FiT payments deliberately?

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  • Terrylw1
    Terrylw1 Posts: 7,038 Forumite
    Ombudsmen complaints mean get have to pay a charge and with it being resolved they may not accept it due to the charge issue. Not sure on that.

    You could complain perhaps high, MD for instance. All you will get it apologies and maybe some compo but its for them to sort their processes, feedback is all useful but the balls in their court.
    :rotfl: It's better to live 1 year as a tiger than a lifetime as a worm...but then, whoever heard of a wormskin rug!!!:rotfl:
  • Andy_WSM
    Andy_WSM Posts: 2,217 Forumite
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    unsure wrote: »
    Persistence pays off! At 1715 today npower emailed,(after a reminder that they'd promised to resolve the issues today) to say that they can confirm they have all the information they need, we can ignore the latest duplicate paperwork and should have our first FiT payment paid into our bank account in 3-5 working days.
    Still thinking of taking it to the Ombudsman though as the whole painful process has been time consuming, frustrating and would have been unneccessary if they'd done their job right from the outset.

    npower aren't alone with their exceptional workloads. Due to the government messing around with the rates and dates it has forced an incredibly high number of systems to be rushed in at the time you talk about. E.on always managed a payment in 10 days, but upon submitting my latest reading the autoresponder replied to say it would likely take 45 days due to workload.

    I'd have thought a complaint to the ombudsman would hinder, not help, at this time.
  • unsure
    unsure Posts: 758 Forumite
    edited 22 March 2012 at 12:07PM
    Terrylw1, Andy_WSM,
    I would, of course, wait until the payment was in the account before making the Ombudsman's complaint! My reason for pursuing it, if I proceed, would be because I don't think npower should get away with the way they have behaved without being answerable to someone. Since they don't seem to listen to customers perhaps the regulator may have more influence in making them conduct their business better.

    I do understand that there was massive uptake of FiT and that companies (inc npower) may have been taken by surprise and overwhelmed and I would accept that could cause delays in the short term, but nearly six months later that is absolutely no excuse not to have responded appropriately.

    Npower's own procedures (or lack of them) have contributed masssivley to the problem. It is extremely difficult to get through on the phone (0845 no!) so they recommend email - which they sometimes answer, sometimes not, so follow ups have to be sent and the snowball grows. Staff training appears to have been poor at best - I was once put through to someone in the "FiT Overflow Team" who told me he couldn't tell me about my application, couldn't tell me who could, didn't have a supervisor I could talk to and recommended I call in again and hope I "get put through to someone else"! When I politely said that wasn't very helpful, especially as I had bee waiting 20 minutesto talk to him, he hung up! That of course necessitated a follow up email etc

    Requesting information on paper forms and then,once it has been sent, requesting it again, adds further to the paper mountain and customer frustration. Telling customers it's quicker to do things by email and then sending out paper forms and demanding their speedy return for information already sent electronically does more of the same. Sending out forms dated three weeks before the posting date suggests inefficiency somewhere along the line!
    Promising to sort things out and failing to do so lets customers down further and adds to the workload ( when customer has to chase and another response is required), the delays and the customer dissatisfaction.

    Npower has a very simple online system for submitting domestic meter readings. I can't see why a similar approach couldn't have been adopted for FiT, they can have all the other details they need when the account is set up. Their website could have been used much more effectivelyto convey basic general infromation and save unnecessary calls. It's basic management not rocket science.

    They would have saved themselves much time and effort and their customer much delay and frustration if they had planned a more streamlined and efficient system and recruited and trained sufficient staff since the first rush. I assume they are smart enough to know that, so I have to wonder if they have other reasons for adopting such lousy, inefficient, repetitive processes which they know are causing customers, delay, frustration and anxiety.

    Perhaps a few Ombudsman's complaints might help them think focus on how badly they are performing and help them to improve.
    Just because somebody is certain doesn't mean they are right!
  • drusy_2
    drusy_2 Posts: 11 Forumite
    Unsure,
    The way you feel, i would say that you should make a complaint, if nothing else, it might make you feel better.

    Regards Drusy
  • unsure
    unsure Posts: 758 Forumite
    Drusy,
    I'm quite calm and measured about, it, sorry if that didn't come across in the posts! But the more I think about it the more I think npower are knowingly letting customers down, since I find it hard to believe I'm the only one who has been in this situation. It is on that basis that I may well still make a complaint. Of course the other side of the coin is that these matters are so time consuming and wearing that one is tempted just to sigh deeply and move on...but perhaps that's waht the likes of npower are counting on!
    Just because somebody is certain doesn't mean they are right!
  • Terrylw1
    Terrylw1 Posts: 7,038 Forumite
    edited 22 March 2012 at 10:38PM
    Their systems can't handle fit payments. These companies are upgrading tyo new SAP based systems but npower impplimented it yet hence they are still using their 30 year old or so systems. So its likely a lot of the work uses processes outside of the system to schieve this as nationised systems never had any idea microgen would come up.

    However, I totally agree with you...service is service and it shouldnt take long to get you to someone who can help. This is likely to be someone in a back off section who does the billing/metering side as opposed to the general call centre staff. Youwould probably even find the staff themselves feel stuck in the middle.

    Ombudsmen complaints are worked on a case by case basis and then monthly performance reporting is circulated. So, you will be added to that category.

    I dont want to discourage you at all and i think you should complain, I'm just trying to say that this complaints process is all about numbers as opposed to the actual impact it has. I'm yet to see any sort of impact scoring to how which complaints cause the most pain which would be a good way too measure complaints as opposed to just counting them!
    :rotfl: It's better to live 1 year as a tiger than a lifetime as a worm...but then, whoever heard of a wormskin rug!!!:rotfl:
  • nPower
    nPower Posts: 1,319 Organisation Representative
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    edited 26 March 2012 at 12:08PM
    Hi all MSE posters,

    Thank you for all your feedback.

    I'm really sorry to hear that you feel the Feed in Tariff (FiT) team haven't been dealing with your queries as well as you expected.

    As you're probably already aware, the government made a series of announcements regarding FiT rates.

    In October, we were told that rates would reduce in December. This caused a dramatic increase in the demand, with our call volumes increasing by 500% and new applications by 200%.

    Then, in March, the government announced further cuts, which resulted in an bigger increase in call volumes.

    Our Feed In Tariff team have been working really hard to clear the backlog and they have also installed a new telephone system that allows them to have a clear vision on calls they are receiving so that they can dynamically manage call waiting times.

    The team are really sorry that they have not met the high level of service you would usually expect to receive from them but they're working hard to resolve this.

    In the meantime, they thank you for your patience.

    If you're still experiencing any problems, please call the team on: 0845 078 2977 or email: [EMAIL="microgeneration@npower.com"]microgeneration@npower.com[/EMAIL].

    Best wishes,

    Adam :)
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  • unsure
    unsure Posts: 758 Forumite
    Adam,
    That's really not a good enough response. Nobody doubts that your FiT team are working hard but npower's response to this situation has been woeful and the customer experience truly awful and utterly unsatisfactory.

    Your own switchboard admits that's its extremely hard to get through to the FiT Team. You could use your website much better to explain things (try finding out ANYTHING about FiT from your Home Page and you'll see what I mean) and you could also use it to allow FiT customers to report readings just as domestic users can. You could cut out the duplication and confusion between paperwork quite easily and you could spell the whole process out much more clearly. You should make it matter of policy that documents are dated appropriately not three weeks before they are posted! The email address does not always elicit an answer and when it does commitments are sometimes made which are not upheld. If you dealt with those things you might find the number of calls from worried and confused customers was reduced and you were in a better position to get on with clearing the backlog.

    Those are all systemic problems that could and should have been dealt with long ago but they are still occurring. That frankly indicates a company whose response to a difficult situation is to shrug its shoulders and let the customers take the strain. You could easily allay the fear that npower is holding onto FiT money as long as possible by offering to pay interest or a late payment fee on any delayed payments.

    Frankly your anodyne "explanation" is symptomatic of a company not trying hard enough and looking for excuses rather than solutions.
    Just because somebody is certain doesn't mean they are right!
  • I am still waiting for my December Fit payment from npower £297.66 .They have promised to pay it to my bank account on several occasions when I have called them..Bob
  • nPower
    nPower Posts: 1,319 Organisation Representative
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    Hi Allaroundmyhat,


    That doesn't sound too good.


    I'd like to check where your payment is so if you can send me your details to forumresponse@npower.com, I can take a look.


    Many thanks,


    Adam :)
    Official Company Representative"
    I am the official company representative of nPower. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE.
    If we ask you to contact us, please do so using helpandsupport@npower.com - MSE Forum has temporarily allowed the display of our contact details in our signature due to a technical issue with our profile
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