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Wartime recipes, substitutions and other related austerity hints
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Growing up in the 50's and 60's I remember food being a lot plainer then as there wasn't the array of seasonings, sauce mixes etc. A jar of dried mixed herbs, gravy salt or oxo cubes, white pepper and salt would have been all that was available that I can think of. Most of it for us was combined with fillers like potatoes, dumplings, batter, and pastry. (Everyone made their own then.) I remember my mother making something like a toad in the hole with liver and onions which was filling and probably very nutritious. In fact , I could quite fancy some now with mashed potatoes and a lovely thick gravy!
Fishcakes and rissoles were a regular too. Dusted in flour and fried. Those orange breadcrumbs that were for sale in the 'new-fangled' supermarkets were a needless extravagance!
Soups were used a lot and we often had a bowl of soup with a slice of bread as a filler when we got in from school on winter days. They were usually home made too as a tin of soup wouldn't go far in our family! (I can only remember tomato, cream of chicken and oxtail being available then, not the variety that is on offer now)The beautiful thing about learning is nobody can take it away from you.
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I recall my parents during the war acquiring from somewhere a very large Ali Baba tall earthenware glazed pot from somewhere. Iur lawn was dug up to grow runner beans and tomatoes and the only way the beans could be preserved (no freezers in those days!) was to salt them down.
You would put a layer of beans which had been "de-stringed" and topped and tailed in the bottom followed by a sprinkling of salt u TIL the pot was eventually full and the salt would dissolve, tue I g to brine, whixh would preserve the beans.
They would have to be soaked and refreshed in various washes of fresh water before they were even vaguely edible !
The onky problem with the crock my parent acquired was that the external base hadn,t been glazed on the outside . It was placed on the base of the glazed fireplace tiles in our unused "parlour" and the salt permeated the base of the pot and completely wrecked the fireplace tiles on which they were stood. The pot was subsequently abandoned and I don,t think my parents ever attempted to preserve beans that way again after their first year's harvest.
What my mother would have given for a freezer. I do recall being forced to eat meal after meal of runner beans in fried tomatoes during later summer/autumn years, with the juice mopped up with a slice of bread or toast.
Occasionally we would have chips with it as a treat. The neighbour next door used to borrow my mum's chip pan which contained solid lard but Mum stopped loaning it to her when she claimed that it was always returned with half the solid lard missing, at a time when fat was severely rationed.
My memories of winter were always of wet steaming clothes on the clothes horse in front of a miserable little coal fire. We could never get a look in as getting the washing dry was a priority, even after the mangle had removed surplus water. And on frosty days, shirts would hand solid on the washing line like scarecrows!
And settling down to listen to Childrens Hour on the wireless (as it was then called). and just as you got to the exciting part of the story, the lights would go out, the wireless would fall silent and there would be a rush to light the candles kept permanently on the mantelpiece as yet another power cut kicked in.
I also recall the risky business of my dad holding up a newspaper across the fire grate to encourage a draught when the miserable quality coal wouldN,t burn. After it had caught fire several times he eventually made a large metal plate with a handle on it to hold across the gap to "draw" the fire which stopped the washing on the clothes horse risking being caught alight. No Heath & Safety police in those days!
And one bad winter, (1947 i think ) we had to use a bucket for a toilet for ages because the water in the loo cistern had completely frozen up, as had the water in the loft tank, so no running water in the bathroom either. (And no soft Kleenex toilet tissue then. Just scratchy hard Izal toilet paper which mad your backside really sore!).
It's hard today imagining that houses could get so cold as to allow that to happen but most houses only had one miserable little fire in the living room and coal was severely rationed too. I recall one winter weekend my dad took my brother's pram down to some nearby woods and returned with it full of old bits of wood and some logs off fallen trees. . My mother wept when she saw it because we had completely run out of coal, the house was freezing, the washing couldn't be dried and she had two small children to try and keep warm.
It's only when you become an adult yourself living in a world where life is so much easier now that you realise how hard caring for a family was during that time.3 -
I don't remember life being miserable though Primrose, in the 50s anyway. My dad was a miner so we always had a good fire going, but as you say, that was the only fire.
When my husband was on the dole we used to take the kids and old coal sacks up the hill and collect fallen wood for the fire. It's amazing how much free wood is out there0 -
I remember my dad cracking the washing when it came off the line and standing in the kitchen flinging his arms around his back to warm up his hands. Every evening the clothes horses coming out to dry washing hung around it in the lounge as the only heat was the fire. We ate mainly the fruit and veg which my dad grew which included runner beans for weeks every summer, Sunday lunch may have had five different vegetables on the plate with potatoes and very little meat, my mum would feed five on Sunday, cold on Monday and stew or soup on Tuesday
I was born in the mid 1960s and although there was very little money we had more than my parents had when they raised my older siblings in the 40s and 50s. The thatched cottage they lived in looks amazing now, it was revamped when the NT took over the estate in the 80s it was very different when it was a farm workers tithe cottage no bathroom, electricity and a outside toilet at the bottom of the garden. When my older siblings get together they talk about the hardships but they talk more about all the family that lived around them (not always a good thing) riding the shire horse bare back in the field, skating on the village pond and swimming in the river, a small village primary school where two sisters taught all classes between them. My dad worked six days a week, grew all the family fruit and veg in a large garden as well as on an allotment, kept chicken and a goat. My brother kept rabbits and sold them as meat to the local butcher. They would joke that us younger ones had it easier but they had the advantage of younger parents
As a child every Christmas Eve under be cover of darkness my dad would go with a saw and 'acquire' the Christmas tree from the local common sometimes a whole tree, sometimes just the top and sometimes we would tease him it was just a branch. My mum would sit at home worrying he would did caught and be in jail for Christmas. The year I had my first Saturday job at 15 I proudly brought home a shop brought tree and was quite upset that it wasn't appreciated I realised as an adult that getting a tree was part of his Christmas traditionLife shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage - Anais Nin1 -
My Mum tells us that in winter there were ice flowers on the single paned bedroom window, and that the water in the jug (for washing) was either very cold or frozen. She used the water from her hot water bottle to wash in the mornings, smart girl!Are you wombling, too, in '22? € 58,96 = £ 52.09Wombling in Restrictive Times (2021) € 2.138,82 = £ 1,813.15Wombabeluba 2020! € 453,22 = £ 403.842019's wi-wa-wombles € 2.244,20 = £ 1,909.46Wombling to wealth 2018 € 972,97 = £ 879.54Still a womble 2017 #25 € 7.116,68 = £ 6,309.50Wombling Free 2016 #2 € 3.484,31 = £ 3,104.590
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As a child of the 80s, the most I can add to this are stories I heard from my Grandma or tales that my Dad heard from his aunties. He was born in 1952 and raised by his Mum and two aunties. All three of the women had been in the WAAF during WW2. Two of them were cooks and they managed to make amazing things with almost nothing for very hungry crews! Definitely magicians!
I have recipe books from all three and when I've had to make the pennies stretch often turn to them as the handwritten notes are rather useful. Especially love the handwritten crumble recipe which I still use (and used this weekend with some crinkly apples and berries from the freezer).
My Dad told me once how when he was growing up he would quite often come home from school (the village primary school was two minutes away and all the kids walked home) and no one would be back from work (after the war all three women worked in different places) and often he'd go to his friends house and there be given bread and butter or a scone and then play with his friend until his Mum or Aunties got back. Many years later when my Grandma passed away we were staying for a few weeks sorting out the house and my sister and I went to play on the green nearby. We got to chatting to another girl there and went to her house. There we were given squash and a snack and we got to look at her Dad's pigeons. A couple hours later our Dad came looking for us and found us in the house he used to go to as a child, playing with the daughter of his friend.Grocery budget in 2023 £2279.18/£2700Grocery budget in 2022 £2304.76/£2400Grocery budget in 2021 £2107.86/£2200Grocery budget in 2020 £2193.02/£2160Saving for Christmas 2023 #15 £ 90/ £3651 -
With rationing and such small amounts of meat, cheese and eggs available per person per week many of the dishes made used these ingredients to flavour rather than be the centre of the dish. One of my favourite wartime main meals that we have quite often because it's delicious is Vegetable Mince which is a big plate of cooked veg, whatever you happen to have in at the time steamed to just cooked but not mushy and the topping is a sauce made with minced beef, an oxo stock cube, a couple of chopped tomatoes, an onion and some mixed herbs and if you have it a tablespoon of tomato ketchup. The original recipe uses 4 - 6 oz of minced beef to feed 4 people but I use 4 oz for the two of us. It's surprisingly tasty and filling and even nicer if you serve up the whole thing in a big Yorkshire pudding.2
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What a lovely thread. My husband and I have a lot of vintage clothing and homewares as we also do 1940s reenactment. I have a few recipe books both original and reprinted from the time. My favourite is Eating For Victory which is a collection of ministry of food leaflets reprinted.
Gingerbread without fat goes down well our house.
Mix 4oz plain flour, 3oz oats, 2tsp ground ginger, 2tsp mixed spice, and 2oz sugar in a bowl. Heat 1/4 pint milk with 3tbsp treacle or syrup in a pan to boil. Stir in 1tsp bicarb soda. Pour this into dry ingredients, mix thoroughly and quickly. Bake in lined tin in a moderate oven for 50 mind.Vintage loving, allotment holding, low waste living. Indi = DH. Maisie Bones = fur baby
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Yep, it's a great thread.
Toonie - just gotta tell you how much I loved reading your post, especially the last bit about you playing in the house your dad you to play in as a child.
Vintagelady - sounds like a great recipie there thank you for that, I'm gonna give it a go. You're not gonna believe it but at this minute I am sitting looking through various cookbooks for a gingerbread recipie which includes oats. For years I have used the be-ro recipe for gingerbread but I fancy a change as it doesn't include oats.
Just thinking there, I should also rifle through my marguerite pattern books as I have plenty of them!1
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