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Halifax Clarity Card Zip Codes

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  • Kred
    Kred Posts: 3 Newbie
    Thank you for all your reply’s and Halifax have finally responded.
    Apparently they as a Company do not support any transactions that require a Zip code which I find very surprising given this is an enhanced security measure!
    Spoke to the Halifax credit card customer complaint team and they have confirmed this is company policy and no plans to change it.
  • Kred wrote: »
    Thank you for all your replies and Halifax have finally responded.
    Apparently they as a Company do not support any transactions that require a Zip code which I find very surprising given this is an enhanced security measure!
    Spoke to the Halifax credit card customer complaint team and they have confirmed this is company policy and no plans to change it.

    It shouldn't really surprise you - how could it possibly make your transaction more secure? You don't have a Zip code. To be honest it sounds like a US domestic process and it shouldn't be enforced on non-US cards used in the US. No UK issuer will support Zip Code checking - in fact it's likely no issuer outside North America will.

    All that said, the retailer and its processor will not be checking the value you give because they would have no idea what Zip code area you live in (even if you did). They will simply forward the value to your issuer for checking as part of an authorisation request, but your issuer will simply discard the Zip code information when they receive it because it's meaningless to them.

    UK issuers use something similar called AVS (Address Verification Service) for card-not-present transactions which uses the numerics from house number and post code.

    Possibly the best way forward is to do as suggested by others here and make up a 5 digit number. It might need to be a valid Zip code (just in case there is any up-front checking) but, from what I have read in previous posts, it seems you might get away with anything.
  • adindas
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    Kred wrote: »

    Apparently they as a Company do not support any transactions that require a Zip code which I find very surprising given this is an enhanced security measure!

    Spoke to the Halifax credit card customer complaint team and they have confirmed this is company policy and no plans to change it.

    How could it be possible for Halifax to support Zip code if UK address does have zip code. Instead it is only a Postcode which has a different format, not a Zip code.

    Other countries might have a different format of Postcode/ZIP code. How could they accommodate this?
  • Migster
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    Just to add, AVS (as mentioned above) is not just a UK thing and is what would have been used to verify the ZIP code. It matches up the numerics from the house number (if applicable) and the postcode/zip code. I'm guessing that to get past the ZIP code requirement it would be best to use leading zeroes, so if the numerics from your post code were 2 and 3, you might find 00023 works, as this would equate to a value of 23 which would match what your card issuer would be expecting to receive.
  • Ben8282
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    edited 3 October 2019 at 9:22PM
    This problem cannot be unique to Halifax and would apply equally to all non-US issued credit cards. I was just thinking that Canadian post codes are in a format identical to UK postcodes so the problem must be happening with Canadian issued cards as well which are certainly used very frequently in the US for this purpose.
    To the OP. What is your proposed solution to the problem? What do you want Halifax to actually do about it? Require all US gas stations to cease to require Zip codes for pay at pump transactions (probably beyond their ability) or would you like Halifax to issue every customer with an imaginary Zip code to be used or ?
    Does anybody know why this requirement exists? Is it designed to be used in lieu of signature for swipe/sign cards as the holder has no pin? It seems somewhat unnecessary if a correct pin is entered.
  • Migster wrote: »
    Just to add, AVS (as mentioned above) is not just a UK thing and is what would have been used to verify the ZIP code. It matches up the numerics from the house number (if applicable) and the postcode/zip code. I'm guessing that to get past the ZIP code requirement it would be best to use leading zeroes, so if the numerics from your post code were 2 and 3, you might find 00023 works, as this would equate to a value of 23 which would match what your card issuer would be expecting to receive.

    An additional issue dropping out of the use of AVS/ZIP checking is possibly that UK issuers may not perform said service in the card-present environment and so will not care what info is provided - as others seem to have indicated.

    PS doesn't AVS use the house number numerics any more?
  • tempus_fugit
    tempus_fugit Posts: 1,189 Forumite
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    When I'm in the US, I just use the numbers in my postcode, with 0s on the end.

    Works with most of my cards without fail.

    e.g. If your postcode as AB12 3CD then enter 12300
    Wow, spooky, that's nearly my old postcode, although it would have produced 12400. :D
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  • Vortigern
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    Ben8282 wrote: »
    I was just thinking that Canadian post codes are in a format identical to UK postcodes so the problem must be happening with Canadian issued cards as well...
    The link in post #9 above gives advice for Canadian Mastercard holders. Others suggest the same method might work for UK postcodes.
    What is your proposed solution to the problem? What do you want Halifax to actually do about it?
    The solution is to raise awareness of the problem and to publish an approved workaround, like digits from postcode plus zeroes, or a made up zip code. Halifax Clarity is a travel card and should provide guidance to its customers who might encounter the zip code requirement.
  • Kred
    Kred Posts: 3 Newbie
    The issue here is that Halifax have decided they will not support any transactions that require a Zip code validation and their policy is not documented or communicated anywhere which is shocking.

    Unfortunately this means none of the suggested workarounds work and I did try a few of them.

    I primarily use this as a travel card because of the MasterCard rates and if the USA continue rollout the need for a Zip code validation then this will become a show stopper.

    So I am now considering cancelling my Halifax Clarity card and will be looking for an alternative Mastercard based card.

    Tandem, which is also recommended on MSE, does support Zip codes using the Mastercard Canadian approach Post code 3 numbers plus 00.
  • System
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    Kred wrote: »
    The issue here is that Halifax have decided they will not support any transactions that require a Zip code validation and their policy is not documented or communicated anywhere which is shocking.

    Unfortunately this means none of the suggested workarounds work and I did try a few of them.

    I primarily use this as a travel card because of the MasterCard rates and if the USA continue rollout the need for a Zip code validation then this will become a show stopper.

    So I am now considering cancelling my Halifax Clarity card and will be looking for an alternative Mastercard based card.

    Tandem, which is also recommended on MSE, does support Zip codes using the Mastercard Canadian approach Post code 3 numbers plus 00.

    Doubt it's a major issue for Clarity users, I've personally used 00000 or 99999 with Clarity and it's worked fine. Chip and Pin rollout will reduce the need for zipcode for in person transactions too.
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