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PCN from Armtrak on private land - legal proceedings

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PLEASE HELP!!!
I received a PCN from ARMTRAC and tried to appeal several times within the 28 day time scale. They replied to my appeals stating I could not appeal as I had not name the driver (I informed them I was the owner of the vehicle and was appealing). I was appealing as the signs state you have to park within an allocated bay but no bays are marked within the car park as it is just a private field. I then tried to appeal to IPC but was unable to lodge an appeal as the fine has not been registered with IPC. I asked AMTRAC about this and their response was..
"As you failed to to supply us with the information previously requested [sic naming the driver], no appeal was addressed. Therefore your details have not been uploaded onto the IPC website.As previously stated in our last response.
This matter is now closed and we will not enter into any further correspondence regarding an appeal for this PCN."

I have not received a demand for £160 from bw legal specialists for full payment within 16 days otherwise they will take court proceedings.
Should I pay the £160 to avoid further fees?

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  • trisontana
    trisontana Posts: 9,472 Forumite
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    PLEASE HELP!!!
    I received a PCN from ARMTRAC and tried to appeal several times within the 28 day time scale. They replied to my appeals stating I could not appeal as I had not name the driver (I informed them I was the owner of the vehicle and was appealing). I was appealing as the signs state you have to park within an allocated bay but no bays are marked within the car park as it is just a private field. I then tried to appeal to IPC but was unable to lodge an appeal as the fine has not been registered with IPC. I asked AMTRAC about this and their response was..
    "As you failed to to supply us with the information previously requested [sic naming the driver], no appeal was addressed. Therefore your details have not been uploaded onto the IPC website.As previously stated in our last response.
    This matter is now closed and we will not enter into any further correspondence regarding an appeal for this PCN."

    I have not received a demand for £160 from bw legal specialists for full payment within 16 days otherwise they will take court proceedings.
    Should I pay the £160 to avoid further fees?

    Please see post #6 on this thread and start your own thread!
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 41,444 Forumite
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    PLEASE HELP!!!
    I received a PCN from ARMTRAC
    Did you by any chance read post #6 above?
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • Crabman
    Crabman Posts: 9,943 Forumite
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    The posts above have been split out of the newbie sticky thread.
  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 37,818 Forumite
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    That letter that you have received from BW Legal is just a debt collector's letter.

    It can be safely ignored - as explained in post #4 of the NEWBIES FAQ sticky thread.
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
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    It is the will of Parliament that these scammers be put out of business. Hopefully that will take place in the near future. The Bill has passed through the HOC without hitch, and goes to the Lords soon. In the meantime involve your MP, the poor dears are buckling under the weight of complaints about these scammers. Read this one which I wrote earlier

    This is an entirely unregulated industry which is scamming the public with inflated claims for minor breaches of alleged contracts for alleged parking offences, aided and abetted by a handful of low-rent solicitors. Is has been suggested by an MP that some of these companies may have connections to organised crime.

    Parking Eye, CPM, Smart, (especially Smart}, and others have already been named and shamed in the House of Commons as have Gladstones Solicitors, and BW Legal, (these two law firms take hundreds of these cases to court each week), hospital car parks and residential complex tickets have been especially mentioned. They lose most of them, and have been reported to the regulatory authority by an M.P. for unprofessional conduct

    The problem has become so widespread that MPs have agreed to enact a Bill to regulate these scammers.

    Sir Greg Knight's Private Members Bill to curb the excesses, and perhaps close down, some of these companies passed its Third Reading in late November, and, with a fair wind, will become Law next year.

    All three readings are available to watch on the internet, (some 6-7 hours), and published in Hansard. MPs have an extremely low opinion of the industry. Many are complaining that they are becoming overwhelmed by complaints from members of the public. Add to their burden, complain in the most robust terms about the scammers.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
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