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    • MSE Naomi
    • By MSE Naomi 16th Oct 18, 4:13 PM
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    Affected by the VW emissions issue? The deadline to join a lawsuit is approaching - MSE News
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    • 16th Oct 18, 4:13 PM
    Affected by the VW emissions issue? The deadline to join a lawsuit is approaching - MSE News 16th Oct 18 at 4:13 PM
    The deadline for drivers to join a lawsuit over the Volkswagen emissions controversy is fast approaching - here is what you need to know...
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    'Affected by the VW emissions issue? The deadline to join a lawsuit is approaching'

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    • DoaM
    • By DoaM 16th Oct 18, 4:26 PM
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    What have people actually lost?
    Did the emissions "hack" cause them to use more fuel?
    Was the resale/trade-in value of their vehicle affected by it?

    The latter item is probably the only potential loss any VW owner may have faced, and even that it debatable.

    I don't wish to seem harsh but I somewhat hope the class action fails ... it simply smacks of ambulance-chasing to me.
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    • k3lvc
    • By k3lvc 16th Oct 18, 4:34 PM
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    • 16th Oct 18, 4:34 PM
    I don't wish to seem harsh but I somewhat hope the class action fails ... it simply smacks of ambulance-chasing to me.
    Originally posted by DoaM
    And a shock that MSE should be supporting this - are the claims company an advertiser ?
    • minislim
    • By minislim 16th Oct 18, 5:23 PM
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    owners of affected cars had £1000's of pound lopped of the values of their cars almost overnight.
    some garages wouldn't actually accept them as part exchange.

    the replacement upgrade software that they offered to owners has significantly changed the running and performance of their cars. some have seen poor acceleration performance and others its a reduction in mpg.

    it did effect the vw group market quite a bit.

    as VW were the first to be caught it affected their market badly.
    as other manufacturers have also been caught the effect to them has not been as dramatic.

    for me it definitely needs something doing. but im not into all this claims nonsense and wont be putting a claim in. im just happy with the car.
    • neilmcl
    • By neilmcl 16th Oct 18, 7:46 PM
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    owners of affected cars had £1000's of pound lopped of the values of their cars almost overnight.
    some garages wouldn't actually accept them as part exchange.

    the replacement upgrade software that they offered to owners has significantly changed the running and performance of their cars. some have seen poor acceleration performance and others its a reduction in mpg.

    it did effect the vw group market quite a bit.

    as VW were the first to be caught it affected their market badly.
    as other manufacturers have also been caught the effect to them has not been as dramatic.

    for me it definitely needs something doing. but im not into all this claims nonsense and wont be putting a claim in. im just happy with the car.
    Originally posted by minislim
    Where's your evidence of this? This so-called "scandal" has actually had little effect on new or used car sales or values for VW or any other manufacturer.
    • k3lvc
    • By k3lvc 16th Oct 18, 8:20 PM
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    Where's your evidence of this? This so-called "scandal" has actually had little effect on new or used car sales or values for VW or any other manufacturer.
    Originally posted by neilmcl
    The 'evidence' usually comes from Slater and Gordon (other claims companies/sources of dis-information are available) and yes, there may have been a few weeks of turbulence in used values this has evened out and is a non-issue.

    Much as I hate scams it's quite interesting to see the recent developments with Yourlawyers claiming Slater & Gordon claimants are registered with them
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 16th Oct 18, 8:40 PM
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    owners of affected cars had £1000's of pound lopped of the values of their cars almost overnight.
    some garages wouldn't actually accept them as part exchange.
    Originally posted by minislim
    Sorry but this is nonsense. I'd a Golf TDI and a Passat TDI over this timeframe and no issues at all with resale. I still have access to trade auction sites and over that time diesel VWs were regularly making over book price.


    the replacement upgrade software that they offered to owners has significantly changed the running and performance of their cars. some have seen poor acceleration performance and others its a reduction in mpg.
    Originally posted by minislim
    .. i remain unconvinced by that, but noone forced anyone to do the upgrade anyway.


    it did effect the vw group market quite a bit.

    as VW were the first to be caught it affected their market badly.
    as other manufacturers have also been caught the effect to them has not been as dramatic.
    Originally posted by minislim
    It affected the VW Group market, yes, but frankly not one !!!! do i give if their profits were down a bit for a while or if they didnt sell quite so many cars.
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    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 16th Oct 18, 8:42 PM
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    The 'evidence' usually comes from Slater and Gordon (other claims companies/sources of dis-information are available) and yes, there may have been a few weeks of turbulence in used values this has evened out and is a non-issue.

    Much as I hate scams it's quite interesting to see the recent developments with Yourlawyers claiming Slater & Gordon claimants are registered with them
    Originally posted by k3lvc
    ... where unscrupulous salesmen used the excuse of it to get cars off people (mostly Daily Mail readers who were outraged and were "forced" to sell their VWs immediately) at well below trade price.
    Life has never given me lemons.

    It has given me anger issues, anxiety, a love for alcohol and a serious dislike for stupid people, but not lemons.
    • bimma
    • By bimma 16th Oct 18, 9:27 PM
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    • 16th Oct 18, 9:27 PM
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    So am I right in assuming that only those in the group action will be entitled to compensation if they win

    Or will it be a case of if they win..anyone can claim ... similar to ppi?
    I have owned vw effected and my father/brother have aswell

    But I'm thinking just wait rather than let them take 25p cent
    • forgotmyname
    • By forgotmyname 16th Oct 18, 10:13 PM
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    25% of nothing is still nothing.
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    • bimma
    • By bimma 17th Oct 18, 5:48 AM
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    Yes I know
    But on the off chance this group action is successful
    I take it people outside of the group action will have a legal right to apply/get compo aswell
    • Steshaleeza
    • By Steshaleeza 17th Oct 18, 6:10 AM
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    My daughter had this done to her car and it does not run the same . It also caused other damage as with others and she had a large garage bill.
    • Steshaleeza
    • By Steshaleeza 17th Oct 18, 6:12 AM
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    What have you decided as my daughter also affected?
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    • By Steshaleeza 17th Oct 18, 6:17 AM
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    The above link does not work!
    • minislim
    • By minislim 17th Oct 18, 10:02 AM
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    Sorry but this is nonsense. I'd a Golf TDI and a Passat TDI over this timeframe and no issues at all with resale. I still have access to trade auction sites and over that time diesel VWs were regularly making over book price.
    Originally posted by motorguy
    it definitely did. i managed to get a nearly new A4 for £6000 less than its book trade price. from an audi dealer! which im happy with! hence not being bothered with claiming as i saved there! and its still worth more than what i bought it for 18 months later!


    .. i remain unconvinced by that, but noone forced anyone to do the upgrade anyway.
    Originally posted by motorguy

    Well i did have a Seat Exeo Tdi as a company car. it was recalled for software update. got it back and it didnt accelerate as it did before. fuel economy went from average 50 to 60mpg down to 30 to 40. i also had an A3 Tdi car for the wife. which i didnt have the update put on. and ran much better. so i could compare.
    VW advised to have software updated. and that messed the car up. and they wont put it back to original setting. so frankly there a claim just there.
    when i handed the car back to work they tried to part ex the car for another. Garage wouldnt take it at all. now its become a pool car for the office.


    It affected the VW Group market, yes, but frankly not one !!!! do i give if their profits were down a bit for a while or if they didnt sell quite so many cars.
    Originally posted by motorguy
    same here, dont care myself about it. actually benefited by it really. hence not being bothered about this claims nonsence.
    • bobbiz22
    • By bobbiz22 17th Oct 18, 11:43 AM
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    My car was affected - So I had the software update, after driving the same commuting route every day for over a year - I easily noticed the jump up in fuel usage that same week, mpg dropped, and then a week later the DPF light came on. Had it cleaned out, another 2 weeks later light came back on..fixed again, then a few weeks later the light came back on, the car died and had to have it towed to the garage. I had to pay around £700 for a brand new DPF filter & fix to get back on the road. They claimed I must have changed my style of driving which is why the filter kept getting blocked up...I hadn't, at all. They put all the blame on me, but it just seems too coincidental....
    • reeac
    • By reeac 17th Oct 18, 11:56 AM
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    As someone who has never owned a diesel car of any make I feel that I'm more deserving of compo than VW owners. I've had to breathe in the excessive noxious fumes emitted by these cars and yet have paid the higher VED and fuel bills associated with petrol cars. In the early days of diesel cars I could detect one up ahead by smell before I could identify it by appearance and even now, with all the current emissions regulations, I still see occasional sooty outputs. Get real.
    • My perfect cousin
    • By My perfect cousin 17th Oct 18, 12:23 PM
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    The link doesn't work.


    Question - As a result of the scandal (it was), is it now harder to sell a used VW group diesel car ? Has the value of such cars dropped as a reuslt of the bad press?


    yes and yes


    I look forward to receiving compensation as a result.


    bye
    • DoaM
    • By DoaM 17th Oct 18, 12:44 PM
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    The link doesn't work.


    Question - As a result of the scandal (it was), is it now harder to sell a used VW group diesel car ? Has the value of such cars dropped as a reuslt of the bad press?


    yes and yes


    I look forward to receiving compensation as a result.


    bye
    Originally posted by My perfect cousin
    Please show us proof of these claims. (And I don't mean links to Slater & Gordon or the other solicitors involved in the class action).
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    • owenjt
    • By owenjt 17th Oct 18, 4:39 PM
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    My only concern with this is the potential costs should VW win.

    I'm not personally bothered by Slater and Gordon taking 30% of the compensation if they win and it's obviously no win, no fee.

    The issue for me is if VW win, claimants could be responsible for some costs. Apparently this would happen only in exceptional or extremely unlikely circumstances, but it's still a concern.
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