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    • MSE Callum
    • By MSE Callum 3rd Jul 18, 2:51 PM
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    MSE News: Switchable smart meter roll-out could be delayed AGAIN
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    • 3rd Jul 18, 2:51 PM
    MSE News: Switchable smart meter roll-out could be delayed AGAIN 3rd Jul 18 at 2:51 PM
    A wider roll-out of switchable smart meters is in danger of being delayed AGAIN, after the Government announced it's considering extending the deadline by which companies must stop installing first generation smart meters...
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    'Switchable smart meter roll-out could be delayed AGAIN'

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    • gsmlnx
    • By gsmlnx 3rd Jul 18, 3:27 PM
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    • 3rd Jul 18, 3:27 PM
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    • 3rd Jul 18, 3:27 PM
    Well knock me down with a kipper.
    This is totally unexpected.
    And how much more are Capita going to bill the UK consumer for to pay for this delay.
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    • #3
    • 3rd Jul 18, 4:01 PM
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    • 3rd Jul 18, 4:01 PM
    As at 11 April 2018:

    This new generation of meters addresses the incompatibility problem by linking the meters to a common national Data Communications Collector (DCC), making data transferable between all electricity providers. Unfortunately, the rollout of the second generation meters is not without its own problems, as technical issues have caused the rollout programme to be pushed back several times. To date fewer than 500 SMETS2 meters have been successfully installed.

    Independent smart meter operators, such as Stark, are continuing to provide their own !!!8220;Advanced Meter!!!8221; solutions. These operate outside of DCC but provide all of the measurement and recording capabilities of SMETS2, and have their own reporting platforms.

    As a result of the continuing uncertainty with smart meters and in order to avoid unnecessary disruption, we are advising clients, where possible, to delay their install until the SMETS2 meters and DCC are proven.

    Source: Briar Associates

    It really is time that this badly managed and hugely expensive project is kicked into the long grass.
    • badmemory
    • By badmemory 3rd Jul 18, 5:31 PM
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    • 3rd Jul 18, 5:31 PM
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    • 3rd Jul 18, 5:31 PM
    Some people with first generation smart meters have had problems maintaining smart functionality when switching energy suppliers

    Some? Really only some? I used to get irritated when I read about how badly this was being done. Now I read to see what the latest joke is. Because that is what these meters have become.
    • robin58
    • By robin58 3rd Jul 18, 5:43 PM
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    • 3rd Jul 18, 5:43 PM
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    • 3rd Jul 18, 5:43 PM
    Heard from a representative that was trying to sell me SSE energy, that the company were working on Smart 3 meter technology.

    I don't know if he was pulling the wool over my eyes to get a sale but if he wasn't I just thought to myself the company's can't even install version 2 yet.

    Any company trying to make me have a Smart meter, will be getting 2 finger salute from me until they sort things out.
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    • badmemory
    • By badmemory 3rd Jul 18, 6:09 PM
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    • 3rd Jul 18, 6:09 PM
    Heard from a representative that was trying to sell me SSE energy, that the company were working on Smart 3 meter technology.
    Originally posted by robin58

    I was waiting for a generation 3 meter - perhaps it may be wiser to wait for gen 4!!
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    • 3rd Jul 18, 6:17 PM
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    • 3rd Jul 18, 6:17 PM
    From reports in other places, one of the key issues seems to be related to the establishment of a Wide Area Network (WAN) between the various connecting meters. I am not sure the SMETS2, 3 or 4 will make any difference.
    • brewerdave
    • By brewerdave 4th Jul 18, 7:29 AM
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    • 4th Jul 18, 7:29 AM
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    • 4th Jul 18, 7:29 AM
    HA,HA,HA..........Am I surprised ? I think not!!


    Being an old cynic, one wonders whether the old boy network has influenced the situation because certain CEOs are getting uncomfortable with the potential cost write offs associated with warehouses full of incompatible SMETS 1 meters.
    • badmemory
    • By badmemory 4th Jul 18, 3:21 PM
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    • 4th Jul 18, 3:21 PM
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    • 4th Jul 18, 3:21 PM
    HA,HA,HA..........Am I surprised ? I think not!!


    Being an old cynic, one wonders whether the old boy network has influenced the situation because certain CEOs are getting uncomfortable with the potential cost write offs associated with warehouses full of incompatible SMETS 1 meters.
    Originally posted by brewerdave

    No surely not - surely they couldn't possibly be putting their own self interest first! Seems about par for the course these days. They are probably worried about how much they can syphon out of the company before it goes caput.
    • problemcashback
    • By problemcashback 4th Jul 18, 4:41 PM
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    You honestly couldnít make this up, millions spent on meters that are worthless and we wonder why it cost so much money for utilities.
    • chris-j
    • By chris-j 4th Jul 18, 9:00 PM
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    I predict that the energy minister will soon announce that they are waiting for 5G networks for proper communications and that the bill will rise to around £40billion. Meanwhile the rest of the world laugh at the moronic British public who have allowed successive governments to bully them into paying for this BS.
    • Robisere
    • By Robisere 4th Jul 18, 9:44 PM
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    I don't want or need a Smart meter, but am going to be forced into paying for this fiasco through increased energy bills, What a typical British government "initiative" kokup. There is no collective effort to research and investigate the right way to do anything in this country, from the top down. Brexit is going to expose us to the results of incompetence and inefficiencies at many levels of government and business. Carillion and the Rail companies, were just harbingers of what is to come. I despair for the future of my grandchildren.
    I think this job really needs
    a much bigger hammer.
    • robin58
    • By robin58 4th Jul 18, 11:00 PM
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    HA,HA,HA..........Am I surprised ? I think not!!


    Being an old cynic, one wonders whether the old boy network has influenced the situation because certain CEOs are getting uncomfortable with the potential cost write offs associated with warehouses full of incompatible SMETS 1 meters.
    Originally posted by brewerdave
    So basically they are SME(T)G-HEEEADS!!! then.
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    How little I know.!!
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