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ID for a 15 year old

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  • RAS
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    Amanda65 wrote: »
    I did RAS and all they could say was he should carry his passport or a school card ?????? - never hear of one of these and he certainly doesn't have one. Apparently they don't offer an ID scheme.

    So you need to find out what a school card is and organise one. Does school know?
    If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing
  • Amanda65
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    edited 12 April 2011 at 1:17PM
    RAS wrote: »
    So you need to find out what a school card is and organise one. Does school know?

    Have phoned the school today and have been told that the only thing they are aware of are the Student ID cards - which you have to be over 16 to apply for !

    Have now emailed the South West Trains customer service manager and their Passenger Representative panel so will wait and see what they say :)
  • xoxo_2
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    What about a citizen card?

    http://www.citizencard.com/ipr/new-citizencard.html

    They have one for under 16s, one for 16/17 year olds, one for 18+ and a 21+ one too
    :j
  • Amanda65
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    xoxo wrote: »
    What about a citizen card?

    http://www.citizencard.com/ipr/new-citizencard.html

    They have one for under 16s, one for 16/17 year olds, one for 18+ and a 21+ one too

    Hiya yes I mentioned that in my first post but as it costs £15 - and trying to be MSE - I wondered if there was a cheaper (free!) option
  • bluenoseam
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    So what's wrong with him carrying his passport - one would suggest that if he can carry his wallet or a mobile and be allowed to travel to London on his own then he's surely sensible enough to be trusted with his passport.
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  • Amanda65
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    bluenoseam wrote: »
    So what's wrong with him carrying his passport - one would suggest that if he can carry his wallet or a mobile and be allowed to travel to London on his own then he's surely sensible enough to be trusted with his passport.

    I can only assume you haven't had the pleasure of quite how 'dim' even very bright and sensible 15 year old boys can be ;). The phone is insured and he only ever has about £15 in his wallet, which although annoying if they went missing is not as bad as having to replace a passport and all the hassle that would go with it.
  • Well I think you should kick up a fuss to the train company and get reimbursed (even if it was only a couple of quid) In the long term, I think photocopies of passport and birth certificate should do the trick. I wouldn't pay anything out to prove his age via ID for just a year.

    Another thing that your son could do is just point blank refuse to buy an adult ticket when on the train and receive a fine instead, which you have 14 days to pay/argue the toss over: you can then contact the company with proof of his age and the fine'll be waived.

    I had something similar when I'd rung a train company to ask whether my ticket'd be valid for an earlier train and was told yes, then when I got on the train the inspector told me it was only valid for the time on the ticket. I told him in no uncertain terms I wouldn't be paying him anything as I'd checked with the company, so he served me with a £100 fine. I then contacted the train company, told them I wasn't paying it and that they needed to retrain their staff on the phone as they were giving out incorrect info. I never heard anything from them again.
  • edgex
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    Well I think you should kick up a fuss to the train company and get reimbursed (even if it was only a couple of quid) In the long term, I think photocopies of passport and birth certificate should do the trick. I wouldn't pay anything out to prove his age via ID for just a year.

    Another thing that your son could do is just point blank refuse to buy an adult ticket when on the train and receive a fine instead, which you have 14 days to pay/argue the toss over: you can then contact the company with proof of his age and the fine'll be waived.

    I had something similar when I'd rung a train company to ask whether my ticket'd be valid for an earlier train and was told yes, then when I got on the train the inspector told me it was only valid for the time on the ticket. I told him in no uncertain terms I wouldn't be paying him anything as I'd checked with the company, so he served me with a £100 fine. I then contacted the train company, told them I wasn't paying it and that they needed to retrain their staff on the phone as they were giving out incorrect info. I never heard anything from them again.

    unless they remove you at the next station
  • dzug1
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    edgex wrote: »
    unless they remove you at the next station

    They are not supposed to remove 'vulnerable' passengers, which a 15 yo would be
  • bluenoseam
    bluenoseam Posts: 4,612 Forumite
    Amanda65 wrote: »
    I can only assume you haven't had the pleasure of quite how 'dim' even very bright and sensible 15 year old boys can be ;). The phone is insured and he only ever has about £15 in his wallet, which although annoying if they went missing is not as bad as having to replace a passport and all the hassle that would go with it.


    You can only assume incorrectly - having been said bright & sensible 15 year old boy i know that when it comes to some things you just don't lose them! Remember the old saying - to assume is to make an a*s out of u & me!

    but look at it the other way for a few seconds, £15 which will cover him not only for travel purposes, but also every time he wants to buy a DVD - or more importantly a video game as the law has now decreed that PEGI ratings are now legally binding. Or in 3 years time when he's gonna want to go out for a drink or go see an 18 rated movie or comes across someone in Asda/Tesco who points to their challenge 21/25 rule which says he has to show ID. I understand you want to avoid paying for something - but ultimately this is one of the situations where it's not actually all that sensible to avoid payment as it WILL pay for itself in time.
    Retired member - fed up with the general tone of the place.
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