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Management Companies | Peverel OM
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I bought a freehold house from Barrats in 1996 (13 years ago) there is very little common area where I live which needs any special attention by Solitaire, yet in 13 years I have seen the services charges go up from £40 a year to £269 - that is a staggering increase of 650%.
So if my salary was £20,000 pa in 1996, it would have to be £130,000 pa for me to be able to afford my Solitaire bills!
To my shock and amazement I discovered that freehold is not freehold at all if Solitaire are involved in managing anything on your estate. They dictate me my service charges and I must pay them unquestioningly.
Please sign the No.10 Downing Street Petition calling for the regulation of the unscrupulous uncontrolled property management industry.
Property management companies should be held accountable for poor service, shoddy workmanship and overcharging and this could be our chance!*
Therefore, if you are fed up with paying extortionate fees to Management Companies for little work, sign the petition today!*
To find the No 10 Downing Street petition website, search Google:
petitions number 10 flatownerhelp
Thank you to those of you that have already signed the petition, please ask your neighbours to sign it as well.0 -
£269 a year is not a high service charge - service charges are usually heavily subsidised in the first few years of a development in order to attract buyers so your £40 was probably not realistic. Have you looked at what the RPI increased by in those thirteen years? You are not just paying for cleaning communal areas such as corridors, but also fire alarm testing, checking the fire escape, roof repairs, walls, sometimes windows, gardens, repairing private roads or carparks, electricity, lightbulbs and electrical safety, possibly a lift contract, Solitaire's fees, accountant's fees, sinking fund ....
You don't need a petition, you have the right to challenge the charges (must be "reasonable") and challenge the standard of service (must be "reasonably incurred") under the Landlord-Tenant Acts 1985 and 1987 - see here for more detail:
http://www.lease-advice.org/publications/
Note that you will need to address the situation in writing by recorded delivery so that you have a paper trail if you need to take the case to a Leasehold Valuation Tribunal.
If you did not know you would need to pay service charges to Solitaire when you bought the house then perhaps you should be checking though your conveyancing documentation again, and considering whether (a) you read it thoroughly or (b) your solicitor did not bring this matter to your attention.Declutterbug-in-progress.⭐️⭐️⭐️ ⭐️⭐️0 -
Fire Fox, I suggest you read my comments properly before you comment.
I live in a freehold house not a flat.
There is no common fire alarm, I have my own in my house I own my own roof, walls, windows, garden, car park.
We had a light bulb broken for 8 years, I attempted to contact Solitaire many times, but it is impossible to get through. Solitaire ignores everyone on the estate, they are awful. We are Solitaire's cash cows, we are easy money for them.
The rebuilding of 30-foot long, 5 foot high boundary wall cost residents almost as much as the rebuilding cost of my 2 bedroom terraced house. All this wall needed was some pointing, it did not require rebuilding.
I suggest you do search on Google: truth about Solitaire
You will see for yourself the complaints about Solitaire, Peverel and Consensus Group.0 -
This is what I read in TheTruthatAboutSolitaire (do Google search to find website):
Dear Mr DE(DAVID CHARLES EDWARDS maybe?)
If your organisation (Consensus) did not operate as hundreds and hundreds of subsidiary companies many with opaque connections to the rest of the group it would be easier to understand. It would be a lot easier to understand which suppliers were linked and which were “independent”. Some apparently independent contractors even seem to have shared your registered address in the past so I’m sure you will understand why we might get confused (especially when most of us are well on the way to being what I believe your group describes as dribbling geriatrics)
Far from helping it seems your group are increasing it’s efforts to obfuscate on these matters. The organisation chart showing the investments of Consensus has disapeared from its web site and the links on the Peverel Group web site to Cirrus seems to have vanished and been replaced by Peverel Building Technologies. The Cirrus site it still mentioned on the Peverel OM site but the Cirrus site now seems to forget to link to Interphone, unless I missed it? Interphone itself now seems to forget to mention being owned by Cirrus, or is just in very small type? There again maybe its all been moved around in one of your many corporate reviews to improve efficiency?
So Dave rather than keep telling everyone they have misunderstood, misinterpreted or misrepresented the Consensus group structure and your links to contractors perhaps you could spend some time making things a little clearer for all of us.0 -
Peverel?? A bunch of c******
Any sensible governement would do something about them...
Cheers!
Lodger0 -
do Google search to get interesting websites about Solitaire.
Google search words: go petition solitaire
Google search words: allagents solitaire0 -
Hi pb1612,
I am a director of a management company for a freehold estate. All of the directors of our companies are resident owners of the estate. Our annual fees are not dissimilar to yours - they are £200 per year, but I have researched all local estates with a similar set up (ie freehold estates with some areas in common) and the fees are typically £200 (ours is the lowest) through to £350. To be fair, I don't think your fees are high.
However, and this is the big issue, for you to have confidence in any management company you should have transparency in what they do and how they are spending your money. Our income from fees is around £10k per annum, of that, ballpark about £3k goes in professional fees (collecting money, estate inspections, chasing late payers and defaulters, checking out issues such as adoption of public areas and so forth). This can be cut by doing some of the work yourselves, but its really hard to act against your neighbours when they are defaulters, sometimes a professional company is a great aid and keeps the mess at arms length - we're not paid for the hassle of being a director. A further £2k goes on annual maintenance: generally fence repair, paving repair, clearing drains of debris and so forth, £2.5k goes on gardening and tree felling, £500 goes into "communication" - residents newsletters, holding AGMs and booking the facilities and so forth and £2k goes into a sinking fund as we've had a surveyor check our estate and that's the approximate amount we need to put aside so we don't need to go back to our residents to pay for forseeable long term repairs (retarmac of parking areas etc).
In my opinion, you should be able to get a similar breakdown for your estate and see what they are spending the money on. As I understand it, the way that leasehold flat management companies keep their estate's accounts are subject to new best practice rules from next year that will make such info readily available to everyone. I'm not clear on how this impacts on freehold estates, but we've made the decision to adopt the protocols as best practice. It is certainly something you should look at and if you aren't happy, get you and your neighbours to jump ship. You should also have a look at your deeds to see if there's any insight into the set up of the company and any protocols that they have failed to adopt.
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Fire Fox, I suggest you read my comments properly before you comment. I live in a freehold house not a flat.
There is no common fire alarm, I have my own in my house I own my own roof, walls, windows, garden, car park.
We had a light bulb broken for 8 years, I attempted to contact Solitaire many times, but it is impossible to get through. Solitaire ignores everyone on the estate, they are awful. We are Solitaire's cash cows, we are easy money for them.
The rebuilding of 30-foot long, 5 foot high boundary wall cost residents almost as much as the rebuilding cost of my 2 bedroom terraced house. All this wall needed was some pointing, it did not require rebuilding.
I suggest you do search on Google: truth about Solitaire
You will see for yourself the complaints about Solitaire, Peverel and Consensus Group.
I did read that you have a freehold house, thank you. :rolleyes: Freehold houses can have a very limited range of communal services and they can have a fairly comprehensive range, hence I listed a wide selection so you could pick and choose for yourself. I have seen cases where roofs and windows are included in the service charges and others where they are not.
I am well aware of the complaints about Peverel/ Solitaire, I am also well aware that the vast majority of leaseholders (and in your case freeholders) do not understand the function of service charges and do not address the problems in the correct manner. The legislation is in place to protect you, you have the right to challenge service charges in writing by recorded delivery, NOT by telephone. The managing agents must consult with you on major works and you have the right to comment, again in writing by recorded delivery.
I am in a three year dispute myself with our (now ex) managing agents, and am currently £4K in arrears. I have spent many many hours appraising myself of the legislation, the contents of my long lease, breakdowns of charges, invoices and service contracts and composing letters of complaint. As a result I am confident that many of the cleaning and caretaking invoices are fraudulent! I have been threatened with "a visit from the bailiffs", legal action and called "a bad apple" but it has all come to nothing. Why? Because I have put all my complaints into writing by recorded delivery and quoted the legislation.
You think a lightbulb out for eight years is bad, we were charged £1500 in one year for lighting (not labour, just parts) this is for a block comprised of just fifteen flats! I calculated the caretaker would have had to replace every bulb in the building twice a week for the entire year to spend that kind of money. :rotfl:Declutterbug-in-progress.⭐️⭐️⭐️ ⭐️⭐️0 -
I emailed and written to Solitaire many times but they ignored me completely.
I asked Solitaire for breakdown of charges but they ignored me and all the residents on my estate. Solitaire are awful, they exploit residents to the full and treat them with contempt.
Solitaire do very little on my estate, it has not been swept for months.
I am not alone to complain about Solitaire, I suggest you do a Google search.
Google search words: go petition solitaire
Google search words: allagents solitaire
Google search words: truth about solitaire0 -
We have recently been undertaking research and have a feeling that Peverel OM may be changing their name to OM Property Management, either that - they are starting yet another company!
Those internet savvy users will be interested to know that already ompropertymanagement.co.uk has been registered to Peverel at their Hampshire address.
BUT – the funniest thing about this name change is the fact that they have also registered ‘TheTruthAboutOM.co.uk’, in addition to already having ‘TheTruthAboutPeverel.co.uk’.
They obviously do not want another website, such as TheTruthAboutSolitaire setup to publicise their failings…. oh well, they forgot about ‘TheTruthAboutOMPropertyManagement.co.uk’ which is still available and all the .com versions.
We are incredibly flattered by the fact that they have decided to do this, afterall, if they didn’t take this site seriously, they wouldn’t go to these lengths to prevent similar occurances.
Should it be a case that Peverel OM are changing their name to OM Property Management, it would suggest that the recent publicity of Peverel OM / Peverel – must have damaged it’s reputation and they are trying to distance themselves from it?
Who knows, but if there are any residents that possibly know more about OM Property Management or can confirm whether Peverel OM are changing their name – please keep us informed.0
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