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Very/Littlewood's Catalogue Debt won't stop interest
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Could I just ask you for some advice on agreed payment plan with virgin. I have an agreed plan with virgin money. Would I be correct in that Virgin Money won't default me but after the estimated 5 years it will take to clear it will still appear on my credit file for a further 6 years. This being the case it is better to default as this will drop off my file after 6 years?0
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Could I just ask you for some advice on agreed payment plan with virgin. I have an agreed plan with virgin money. Would I be correct in that Virgin Money won't default me but after the estimated 5 years it will take to clear it will still appear on my credit file for a further 6 years. This being the case it is better to default as this will drop off my file after 6 years?
Yes that's correct.
It's admirable that people choose to repay there debts, by whatever method.
However, if you enter a DMP without first defaulting, then you are correct, it will stay on your file for longer.
Better to default first, then make arrangements to pay.I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter0 -
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Big thanks guess I have till the 20th of March to make a decision. I am going to complain to the FOS regardless. Very are a bunch of pirates. Seems pointless in me trying to be decent in an attempt to resolve my debt when the end result will mean it increases due to them not stopping interest.
They're under no obligation to freeze the interest and have done nothing wrong in not freezing interest, so don't get hopes up FOS will make them freeze interest. It will in fact probably incur you more interest as they wont sell the debt with an ongoing FOS complaint. The interest won't be frozen until they sell the debt.
If you want to go to FOS wait for them to sell the debt as it won't delay the freezing of interest then, you have 6 months from date of their final response, but they normally sell after 3-4 months of non payment.
A lot of people criticise DCAs on here I've noticed, but some of them are a lot easier to deal with we have found than the original lenders.
DCAs are happy to get paid anything. Lloyds refused our payment proposals on a debt, and then sold it on. The DCA accepted the same proposal without any questions or supporting evidence.0 -
http://www.ombudsman-decisions.org.uk/viewPDF.aspx?FileID=21784complaint
Mr A complains about a store card account he has with Home Retail Group Card Services
Limited (trading as Argos Card Services). He is on a debt management plan but is unhappy
that interest is still being applied to the account which is equal to almost half of what he
repays each month. He feels that Argos Card Services has not responded sympathetically
his financial situation.
background
The adjudicator who considered the case recommended it be upheld. He noted that Argos
Card Services had made some concessions by reducing the amount of interest that is
charged on the account and had accepted reduced payments. However, he felt the
concessions were insufficient in this instance and recommended Argos Card Services refund
the interest and charges that had been applied to the account since November 2011; reduce
the interest rate to 0% going forward and pay £250 for the distress and inconvenience
caused.
Argos Card Services did not accept the adjudicator’s findings and believes it has dealt with
Mr A’s circumstances fairly. It is not prepared to refund the interest applied, reduce the
interest to 0% or make a payment for the distress and inconvenience.
The case was reviewed by a second adjudicator who agreed with the overall opinion of the
first adjudicator. He felt however that the proposed payment of £250 was higher than what
an ombudsman might award in the circumstances here and felt a payment in the region of
£150 was more likely.
Mr A was unhappy about this and, in summary, feels the original £250 should be paid.
my findings
I have considered all the available evidence and arguments to decide what is fair and
reasonable in the circumstances of this complaint. Having done so, I have upheld this
complaint.
Argos Card Services believes that it has dealt with Mr A’s financial difficulties fairly by
reducing the interest rate on his account and accepting reduced repayments every month.
says the interest rate on the account is variable and instead of the 29.9% APR it can reduc e
the interest to between 0% and 9.9%. I accept that by agreeing to reduced repayments and
reducing the interest by 20%, so that 9.9% is being charged, is a positive step towards
helping Mr A in his position of financial difficulties. However, Mr A can only afford to repay
£20.45 each month and the interest charges are still approaching half of what he is repaying
each month.
Mr A has been on a debt management plan since November 2011 and having considered
his circumstances and level of outstanding debt it is unlikely that his circumstances will
change considerably in the near future. At the current rate of repayment and level of interest
that is being applied it will take up to ten years to repay the outstanding balance on the
account. Even if no further interest or charges are applied to the account the debt will still
take almost five years to repay.
As Mr A is in financial difficulties Argos Card Services is required to treat him in a positive
and sympathetic manner. Having considered the specific circumstances of this case I agree
with the adjudicator that although concessions have been made, these do not go far enough.
Argos Card Services has accepted it can reduce the interest rate to 0% and that its
measures are designed to be temporary and assist consumers in the short term. Mr A is not
in short term financial difficulties, as demonstrated by the fact that he is still on the debt
management plan almost two years later. Unless he has a significant change of
circumstances it is likely he will still continue experiencing the same financial difficulties for
some considerable time yet.
Having considered the steps that Argos Card Services has taken I think it could and should
have done more to assist Mr A in his position of financial difficulties. I do not think that in the
circumstances here that charging the amount of interest was reasonable and Argos Card
Services should now refund the interest and any charges that have been applied since
November 2011. It should also ensure no further interest is applied to the account.
I agree it is reasonable to periodically review Mr A’s circumstances but unless his
circumstances improve significantly it would be unreasonable to restart applying interest to
the account.
I also agree with the adjudicators that Argos Card Services’ failure to treat him in a positive
and sympathetic way has caused him distress and inconvenience. I have considered what
Mr A has said about the proposed payments by the adjudicators and the other broader
issues that he has referred to in his personal life.
Having carefully considered the
circumstances of this specific case I think a payment of £200 to be fair and reasonable and
Argos Card Services should therefore make this additional payment directly to Mr A.
I appreciate Mr A may remain unhappy about the level of this award but I am satisfied it is an
appropriate amount.
my final decision
My final decision is that I uphold this complaint and direct Home Retail Group Card Services
Limited (trading as Argos Card Services) to:
- refund all interest and charges that have been applied to this account since November
2011;
- ensure no further interest is applied to the account, unless it is clear that Mr A’s
circumstances have improved significantly; and,
- pay £200 to Mr A for the distress and inconvenience he has been caused.Free/impartial debt advice: National Debtline | StepChange Debt Charity | Find your local CAB
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Thanks for the link really helpful0
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