Wall insulating paint

Cardew

aquashield_advisor wrote: »

Hi,

I have been advising in another thread - the aquashield experience, a roofing company which claimed to contain insulating paint from Thermilate but in fact it does not.

Beware if you encounter any Aquashield's salesman knocking on your door as they will be doing, they are the cowboys of the roofing industry.

As for the actual product Thermilate, it is a good product, it works very well. I know of a few people that have used it. Put aside the statistics, fancy U values, fancy technologies and marketing. The fact is that Thermilate is a very good product, works fantastically well, the difference you feel is not negligible but in fact it is substantial.

It is the recommended solution for stone walls.

Try it in just a small portion of your house and evaluate it, don't buy loads just do a room and see how it compares with the rest of the house. If you don't think it helps they do offer a money back guarantee, get your money back.

I wish you 'aquashield advisors' would take all your spam to another website. This site does not exist for you to peddle your wares.

Anyone interested in the above should do some research before wasting your money.

rasher61

only thing to watch is that the paint you buy has thermilate technology logo on, other stuff has something init that goes red! thermilate is called warmcoat.:T

rasher61

make sure it has a sign on it called thermilate technology,thats the real stuff and your house will feel warmer.:T

zeupater

rasher61 wrote: »

make sure it has a sign on it called thermilate technology,thats the real stuff and your house will feel warmer.:T

Hi

The only way that paint could make any real difference to how warm you 'feel' would be to do with the colour .... internally something towards the red end of the spectrum to warm things up, or alternatively towards blue to cool things down ... of course, this is just perception, it 'feels warmer', but it makes absolutely no difference to the thermometer.

HTH
Z

Emissivity

[FONT=&quot]Insulating paint additive anyone?[/FONT][FONT=&quot] Thermi… what is it?[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]This area of insulation is quite complex. It can become difficult to follow at times, especially when covering topics like transmissivtty and reflectivity, along with emissivity and absorbency. These subjects sound more complicated than they actually are, but, with the correct information, you’ll be able to fully understand this area of technology and evaluate the information that’s posted on this and other websites.

For instance, “The laws of physics state that nothing can travel through a vacuum?

Infrared is part of the electromagnetic spectrum, as is visible light and ultra-violet light and they are generated by the Sun. These waveforms then travel all the way from the Sun to us via the vacuum of space. The same site, in their FAQ section, states that reflective technologies work if covered with additional paint and even wallpaper. This is just not true, reflective technologies MUST be on the surface. They are a surface factor and any heat radiation that is not reflected by the actual SURFACE will be absorbed and transmitted through to the other side.

There is plenty of chatter on the net in forums like this about reflective coatings, some good, some bad. But, reading through messages, it becomes apparent not that many people actually understand this area of reflective insulation. One of the main reasons for this I feel is the lack of genuine and credible information supplied by some website.

If you have a question, be it a general enquiry regarding reflective/insulating paints, or a more specific question on the subject…please ask away.
Signed off: Emissivity[/FONT]

bloss0m

I run my car on snake oil works wonders

Cardew

Emissivity wrote: »

[FONT=&quot]For instance, “The laws of physics state that nothing can travel through a vacuum?[/FONT]

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What Law of Physics would that be?

Are you not getting a little confused with sound not travelling through a vacuum?

zeupater

Cardew wrote: »

What Law of Physics would that be?

Are you not getting a little confused with sound not travelling through a vacuum?

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: ..... I was going to post that lastnight ...

Hi All

I think that most people are aware that low emissivity&absorption is achieved through the use of reflective or light colours with the opposite being true for dark colours, through to black.

I suppose that if I painted the wall opposite my log burner with standard black emulsion it would absorb more heat and dump it through the wall, whilst if it was painted white (or better still, silver) it would reflect more infrared radiation back into the room ... there you go, no additives, no special paint ... either use bright colours (as the firm in question seem to do !!) or .... let's all wallpaper our walls with aluminium baking foil .... shiny side towards the room, of course ...... note that the relative emissivity value for black paint is around 0.9, silver paint is around 0.3, and aluminium foil around 0.05 ... so you think I'm kidding, no seriously, my walls will remain the same light shades of colour as most other people have

Having said that, adding any compound which has low thermal conductivity to a paint would help insulate ..... the problem is, you would need the layer of paint to be rediculously thick to register any change in heatloss in a house, probably far in excess of the thickness of thermal insulation panels such as Kingspan.

A challenge for anyone promoting these thermal paints .... provide data on the thermal properties of the paint (u-value/r-value) or the emissivity value of the paints v standard paint of the same colour and we'll consider your input ..... guess we'll not need any calculators on this challenge then !!


Z

decor8

moonrakerz wrote: »

Don't touch Thermilate with a bargepole !

Beware of posts praising this product.

I had a customer who had a problem with condensation in a room , so I turned to Google , as you do , .............?
I came across Thermilate Technologies , who claim that they had the answer , to the worlds condensation problems, the lady who I spoke too wouldn't let me get a word in edge ways.........

That they invented this miracle product
That they have been going since 2001
That no other company on the market sells the original products
That people are trying to copycat the products
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah ...snore snore snore !!!!!!!

This really intrigued me
"why" you might ask ?
Because "I'm a nosey so and so" !!!!!

And look at what I found..............:T
Go to a website called Thermakote , and click the link "About Us"
and then " Company"
some ones been very naughty

A very interesting read "eh"

Conclusion


1. Thermilalte Technologies , have not been going since 2001 , a free webcheck on companies house confirms that :

2. They didn't invent these products.

3. The companies other than the ones listed on their website ARE selling the original products , Trading Standards have confirmed this. And the reason why Thermilate Technologies are saying every other company is selling fake is because they want the monopoly .
SIMPLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rogerblack

zeupater wrote: »

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: ..... I was going to post that lastnight ...

Hi All

I think that most people are aware that low emissivity&absorption is achieved through the use of reflective or light colours with the opposite being true for dark colours, through to black.

And they'd be basically wrong.
What you care about is the paint 'colour' in the infrared - far beyond the visible.

In this wavelength, for example, "energy saving" windows are mirrors.

http://www.x20.org/library/thermal/emissivity.htm is the first table I found.
You can see that most paints are around 0.9 or so.

A paint with a low emissivity - and hence a high IR reflectivity may make a space feel warmer, though primarily if you're close to a wall.

I can't see a situation where it's going to make the room feel much warmer though in general, unless you have some form of radiant heat covering an entire wall, floor or ceiling.
In that case, then yes it will.
Otherwise, the things the walls are reflecting will be the cold contents of the room, and it's not going to help.