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Red light camera question.

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  • Happychappy
    Happychappy Posts: 2,937 Forumite
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    Charlie,

    The Police may well not have an incident on their computer relating to the time and location of the incident, I would certainly ring the control room and ask them to note your call and give you a reference number which they can create. Should you then receive an NOIP you can refer to this.

    The motor cycles may well have been from the SEG who do not create incidents on the computer, you may well need to contact them, although on most occasions but not all, the bikes are picked out on the photograph.
  • JJ7 wrote: »
    I would make way for an ambulance on an emergency call if safe to do so, no matter what. My conscience wouldn't let me do anything less.

    Would you do it if you were on 9 points, with a family to feed?
  • MrsE_2
    MrsE_2 Posts: 24,162 Forumite
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    I honestly didn't know any of that.

    So if you got an ambulance behind you with sirens & lights, you can't go through a red light to get out of their way:mad:

    How crazy is that.
  • Poppy9
    Poppy9 Posts: 18,833 Forumite
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    Even police cars responding to emergencies have to notify control if they activate a speed camera or red light camera as tickets will automatically be issued even to emergency vehicles (and of course non marked police vehicles). If the vehicle is not on an immediate response call then they the driver will get the points/fine.
    :) ~Laugh and the world laughs with you, weep and you weep alone.~:)
  • Indout96
    Indout96 Posts: 2,386 Forumite
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    Whilst I do not doubt what has been said above, if the camera flashed you then it will also flash the police vehicle going through behind you, why can that not be used to back up the statement that you were moving out of the way for a police vehicle.
    Take it they are just after our money then ??
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  • Bob63
    Bob63 Posts: 1,320 Forumite
    MrsE wrote: »
    So if you got an ambulance behind you with sirens & lights, you can't go through a red light to get out of their way:mad:

    How crazy is that.
    Not crazy at all. Emergency services drivers/riders (I'm one of the latter) have an exemption on red traffic lights and (most critically) receive training on exactly how to approach and go through a red light. Members of the public don't. Best advice I can give is to follow the IAM's excellent guidance on reacting to emergency services vehicles (below). If everyone did that it would make our jobs much easier.
    http://www.iam.org.uk/pressroom/drivingtips/Emergency+Vehicles.htm
    Emergency Vehicles

    Deciding what to do when you hear an emergency vehicle approaching can be a dilemma. Do you stay where you are and potentially block the progress of an emergency vehicle? Or do you move into a position that may put you or other road users at risk?
    Unfortunately, some drivers over-react to emergency service vehicles travelling on “blues and twos” (blue lights and two-tone horns). This is often because they don’t hear or see the emergency vehicle until it’s too close, and then take drastic action to get out of the way.
    The IAM (Institute of Advanced Motorists) says that good driving practice will alert you early to emergency vehicles: regular mirror checks (side and rear) for example, and keeping the windows slightly down around town, so you can hear sirens approaching.
    Don’t panic and just brake. It’s natural to want to react. But instinctively putting your brakes on immediately in front of an emergency vehicle doesn’t help: it slows the progress of the emergency vehicle and jeopardises other road users.
    Think about where you are on the road. You should deal with the problem in the same way that you deal with any other potentially hazardous driving situation. What is the safest option available to you?
    Don’t cross red traffic lights or speed to get out of the way. The emergency driver has training and legal exemptions that you don’t have. Bus lanes and box junctions can be problems too, but let them resolve the problem of breaking the rules – not you.
    If you are moving it may well be that you can continue at a reasonable pace and the emergency vehicle can follow you out of a pocket of congestion (such as a blocked one way system). In that scenario, attempting to pull over too soon, or slow down, might just cause a needless obstruction and so hamper the progress of the emergency vehicle.
    Indicate your intentions clearly Don’t pull in opposite other obstructions, such as centre bollards. If you are thinking about pulling over across an entrance to a school or factory, you may be unwittingly preventing the emergency vehicle reaching its destination. And do think about where you are asking the emergency driver to overtake you – on the brow of a hill or a blind bend can be placing him or her in a very difficult position.
    Get out of the way as soon as you can do so in safety.
  • MrsE_2
    MrsE_2 Posts: 24,162 Forumite
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    I wasn't thinking of going through as in really going right through.
    What I meant was you know the bit where people cross, I meant to pull over into that to get out of the way.

    I always pull over to my left (while leaving space to pass) as soon as I can when I see or hear a 999 vehicle.
  • Poppy9
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    MrsE wrote: »
    I wasn't thinking of going through as in really going right through.
    What I meant was you know the bit where people cross, I meant to pull over into that to get out of the way.

    I always pull over to my left (while leaving space to pass) as soon as I can when I see or hear a 999 vehicle.

    But if you are on a dual carriageway and in the right hand lane you should pull to the right to make space down the middle:D
    :) ~Laugh and the world laughs with you, weep and you weep alone.~:)
  • MrsE_2
    MrsE_2 Posts: 24,162 Forumite
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    Poppy9 wrote: »
    But if you are on a dual carriageway and in the right hand lane you should pull to the right to make space down the middle:D

    But I'm a good driver, I ONLY use the right hand lane for overtaking;)
  • Poppy9
    Poppy9 Posts: 18,833 Forumite
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    MrsE wrote: »
    But I'm a good driver, I ONLY use the right hand lane for overtaking;)
    What if it's a dual carriageway and you are stationery at the lights and one lane goes right or straight ahead and the other lane is left only?:p

    OH is amused and frustrated by drivers who just don't move when he's trying to get through traffic. There is always one who sits there in his own little world oblivious to cars mounting kerbs, pulling onto cheverons etc around him and sirens blaring:rotfl: . Once when OH wasn't working and a ambulance was trying to get through he jumped out of his car ( I was driving), tapped a chaps window and politely asked him if he could move his car to let the ambulance through as he obviously wasn't going to move on his own initiative!
    :) ~Laugh and the world laughs with you, weep and you weep alone.~:)
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