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  • Savvy_Sue
    Savvy_Sue Posts: 47,359 Forumite
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    wazza wrote:
    the strange part is that he is an innocent party and yet he has the whole book thrown at him by the police.
    It does happen - it has to happen, because unless the police were there and saw what happened they have to talk to anyone who is 'fingered', and arrest them if appropriate. It is obviously a serious assault, which is why bail has been denied initially. But eventually the prosecution will have to say what evidence they have linking your friend's son to the assault, and as I said before hopefully there won't be any from forensic or independent witnesses. Maybe there is even CCTV footage which will help establish that he wasn't involved.

    Someone I know was at a footie match, missiles were being thrown and this person went and told the police. A few days later HE was arrested and charged! Bailed, fortunately, but very worrying all the same. It dragged on for quite a few weeks before he was called into the police station, by this time a photo had been pulled off the CCTV and the offending missile thrower was quite obviously someone who looked completely different!
    wazza wrote:
    will keep you informed of any outcome
    Please do, I really feel for your friend and her son.
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  • NAR
    NAR Posts: 4,864 Forumite
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    wazza wrote:
    the strange part is that he is an innocent party and yet he has the whole book thrown at him by the police.
    Sorry but the harsh reality is you don't know he is innocent. He has said he is innocent and is being believed, but maybe he was involved. If he made no attempt to stop the stabbing and was in the vicinity, his innocence will be harder to prove, expecially if he has not assisted the police.
    Sorry if that isn't what you wanted to hear, but people do tend to lie, when serious crimes have been committed, to avoid prosecution
  • wazza
    wazza Posts: 2,595 Forumite
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    NAR - i know what you mean. I have known my friend's son since he was born. He isn't that type of guy who creates trouble then again in the heat of the moment....

    Friend will see if he can get bail in the coming week. if not then she will have to inform the benefit agency and see what happens.
    Problem with having access to internet is that i get asked by many to solve their problems :( Well at least i learn something on the way :D
  • NAR
    NAR Posts: 4,864 Forumite
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    wazza wrote:
    NAR - i know what you mean. I have known my friend's son since he was born. He isn't that type of guy who creates trouble then again in the heat of the moment.....
    Honestly wazza, I don't mean to sound mean and I do hope you are right and he does get bail.
    Sorry but, being realistic, bail is not opposed by the police without good reason. Also kids don't want to look bad to parents that have done so much for them, and will lie to protect that relationship.
    I have sat on juries and seen such situations unravel.
  • LizzieT84
    LizzieT84 Posts: 51 Forumite
    If a disabled person is in prison and cannot do a prison job does that mean they don't earn money to buy things like other prisoners... or just receive a basic allowance like those that choose not to work?

    If that's the case I think it's a little unfair that disability benefits are taken away completely... having said that... probably best not to break the law.
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