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  • I don't think there were many forced sales 12 to 18 months ago.
    I don't think there are many new sales now.
    What proportion of sales must now refer to repossessions or very near repossessions sold through auctions? And how much cheaper are such sales?
    How many forced-to-lets are there pushing down the rental market?

    It will be getting to the position where we count ordinary cars and pretend that 4 x 4's have not dropped in value.
  • Really2
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    I don't think there were many forced sales 12 to 18 months ago.
    I don't think there are many new sales now.
    What proportion of sales must now refer to repossessions or very near repossessions sold through auctions? And how much cheaper are such sales?
    How many forced-to-lets are there pushing down the rental market?

    It will be getting to the position where we count ordinary cars and pretend that 4 x 4's have not dropped in value.
    :rotfl:

    so you now want the figures to suit a HPC, But would have not wanted them to seem higher before if they included new builds.

    The figures are solid for re-sold propertys. Is the crash not happening fast enough for you.:rolleyes:
  • Really? Is that alongside a 70% fall in lending

    low volume prehaps gives unreliable results
  • poppy10_2
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    That's a bit naughty...

    _45156689_house_prices_30_10_08.gif_45249328_house_prices_28_11.gif

    They've squeezed the graph to make it look like the fall has been more gradual - why the sudden change in the y axis?
    poppy10
  • Also, quite interesting, is the longer term graph...

    ...looks like we are now back to around end-2005...


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  • poppy10 wrote: »
    That's a bit naughty...

    They've squeezed the graph to make it look like the fall has been more gradual - why the sudden change in the y axis?



    Its because they are having to cater for the possibility of 20% falls...
  • poppy10_2
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    Here's how it should look if they used the same y-axis for fairness (excuse the poor quality photoshop hackery, I tried my best):

    October on left, Nov on right

    _45156689_house_prices_30_10_08.gif2z3urya.gif
    poppy10
  • The upturn worries me a little as I'm hoping for BIG falls, but I'm putting my own mind at rest slightly by thinking about mortgage availability, the current economic climate, low volumes and the fact it's only one month and one lender...

    Also, I just spotted that this time last year Nationwide blipped upwards and halifax continued down...
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  • Really2
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    poppy10 wrote: »
    Here's how it should look if they used the same y-axis for fairness (excuse the poor quality photoshop hackery, I tried my best):

    October on left, Nov on right

    _45156689_house_prices_30_10_08.gif2z3urya.gif

    To tell you the truth that makes the upturn look sharper.
    If I was HPC I would prefer the BBC Graph.
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