Just moved into newish rented property - no working fire!

poppysarah

I would assume that any gas appliance in the property worked.

My thought about getting a quote for the repair was to measure how mean the landlord is.
The repair sounds like a small job.

The gas fire will be there to provide heat in the lounge to save putting on the central heating to heat the whole house.

As mentioned I would write to the LA and express disastifaction and ask for the fire to be repaired. I would quite happily leave after the minimum term rather than put up with rackmanism.

prudryden

poppysarah wrote: »

I would assume that any gas appliance in the property worked.

My thought about getting a quote for the repair was to measure how mean the landlord is.
The repair sounds like a small job.

The gas fire will be there to provide heat in the lounge to save putting on the central heating to heat the whole house.

As mentioned I would write to the LA and express disastifaction and ask for the fire to be repaired. I would quite happily leave after the minimum term rather than put up with rackmanism.

Are we talking about a gas fire in a fire place ? If we are, then there are numerous NEW EU laws governing the installation of such. The old fires which were legal at one time are now not. It is very expensive to make them legal not counting the chimney sweeping and lining with a flue. In rental properties, it is common practice to shut off the gas pipe leading to the fire making them safe and nothing else has to be done. A landlord has to make it safe but doesn't have to make it usable.

So where is this gas fire and what kind is it?

clutton_2

""I would quite happily leave after the minimum term rather than put up with rackmanism. "

oh pleeeeeease - nothing AT ALL like rachmanism -

rachmanism was no heating at all, no glass in the windows, live cables hanging from switches/sockets, rat infested properties, "thugs" collecting the rent with violence huge markups on gas/electric meter charges, being turfed out at a moments noticed, sky-high rents, extortion rackets, stuffing huge numbers of west indian immigrants into individual rooms like sardines, etc etc

the fact that Tenants now have so many rights, is down to the sordidness of Rachmann and the desperate stories that came to light after he died.

Mitsouko - you are trying to blame everyone other than yourself - you signed documents without reading them properly - how is that anyone else's fault ?

SquatNow

clutton wrote: »

if the tenant gets another gas engineer in to repair the fire i suspect this will negate the validity of the Landlords Gas Safety Certificate.

I'm pretty sure the Corgi engineer repairing it could issue a new certificate for £20 or so, since he's already there.

clutton wrote: »

you did not fully read your documents at the time of signing

I expect if it went to court it would come under the unfair clauses rule as the prospective tennant had already been charged non-refunable charges before being told there was a problem. The LA would be expected to have told the tennant of "unreasonable terms" in the contract before taking their money.

clutton wrote: »

sorry this landlord has been completley above board as far as i can see

We arn't saying he hasn't, were saying he's a [EMAIL="tw@t"]!!!!!![/EMAIL].

poppysarah

clutton wrote: »

"
oh pleeeeeease - nothing AT ALL like rachmanism -

the fact that Tenants now have so many rights, is down to the sordidness of Rachmann and the desperate stories that came to light after he died.

Do you think Rachman started out full on mean or it just started with a fire?

prudryden

SquatNow wrote: »

I'm pretty sure the Corgi engineer repairing it could issue a new certificate for £20 or so, since he's already there.


I expect if it went to court it would come under the unfair clauses rule as the prospective tennant had already been charged non-refunable charges before being told there was a problem. The LA would be expected to have told the tennant of "unreasonable terms" in the contract before taking their money.


We arn't saying he hasn't, were saying he's a [EMAIL="tw@t."]!!!!!!.[/EMAIL]

Got to be the most moronic statements ever on Money Tips!!!

poppysarah

prudryden wrote: »

Got to be the most moronic statements ever on Money Tips!!!

Why? A letting agent who knowingly lets a property with a gas fire without pointing out it doesn't work, nor will ever be made to work, is perhaps being a tad snide.

prudryden

If the contract doesn't state rental comes with a working gas fire (I assume in the fire place, but no one has answered that question), then there is no need to have one. As I stated, many older properties have gas fires in the fire place, the majority of them have been disconected because of the new laws and that is correct within the law. It's the same with TV aerials. You can have TV aerial sockets, but no aerial. Unless the contract says comes with TV aerial, you have no chance.

Also, I thought most of you (with one or more exceptions) were smart enough to recognise a windup. And I certainly don't have time for the idiots and imbeciles of this forum who talk about going to court and unfair contract terms and have no clue what they are talking about.

bobby-boy_2

Hi Mitsouko me again, slight change of tune on my part. I still feel the fire is safe if it has been capped properly BUT the agent should not have taken NON-REFUNDABLE money from you prior to signing the lease knowing there was a nonconformity on the gas cert without telling you. This is just wrong and you said your landlord is abroad. This is also wrong as he should have a serable address in the UK. I can understand your frustration but as prudren sais if the fire is in a fireplace this may be the stubling block. If it was wall mounted the landlord could just have had it removed and no discusion would be taking place now. Not all landlords are money grabing bar stewards.

N79

bobby-boy wrote: »

Hi Mitsouko me again, slight change of tune on my part. I still feel the fire is safe if it has been capped properly BUT the agent should not have taken NON-REFUNDABLE money from you prior to signing the lease knowing there was a nonconformity on the gas cert without telling you. This is just wrong and you said your landlord is abroad. This is also wrong as he should have a serable address in the UK. I can understand your frustration but as prudren sais if the fire is in a fireplace this may be the stubling block. If it was wall mounted the landlord could just have had it removed and no discusion would be taking place now. Not all landlords are money grabing bar stewards.

Rubbish. I presume the OP has a servable address. It will either be the LL's agents or the LL's solicitors. There is no requirement for LL's to provide a personal address and it is irrelevent where they live.