What is Pay rate for Tesco's per hour?

highrisklowreturn

2sides2everystory wrote: »

Lest anyone not have noticed, the Current NMW rates went up shortly after A.L.D.A posted that in September (same for N.Ireland as elsewhere in UK I presume?):

from direct.gov website:
There are different levels of NMW, depending on your age and whether you are an apprentice. The current rates (from 1 October 2011) are:
£6.08 - the main rate for workers aged 21 and over
£4.98 - the 18-20 rate
£3.68 - the 16-17 rate for workers above school leaving age but under 18
£2.60 - the apprentice rate, for apprentices under 19 or 19 or over and in the first year of their apprenticeship

5 years ago a young student friend in northern Europe started on the equivalent of about £12 per hour for supermarket shelf-stacking. He also now is receiving five years of free university education and a living expenses grant even though his parents earn good money. He is doing very well and to expect that to continue, he will not have to prove himself to be a survivor, just a responsible member of a decent society.

We seem to do things differently in the UK, don't we? We all have to be dumbed down to highrisklowreturn's idea of average global humbleness and fight our way out of that to the top of some stinking corporate heap if we can. It's character building or something like that

Why don't you move to Northern Europe then and avail of such stonking advantages?

Your 'example' is completely ludicrous and out of my place. What's the cost of living in these countries? Are these places now completely broke?

I know in the ROI they used to pay sky-high wages across their entire economy. They had property prices to boot and they're now a total basket-case economy where no sane person would invest his money. Is this the model you aspire to?

Perhaps you and the other poster could set up rival greengrocers paying £25 an hour to your checkout assistants and race eachother to bankruptcy first.

2sides2everystory

Well highrisklowreturn the cost of living is indeed a bit higher in the country in question but then the quality of life is a damned sight better too. For a start, they don't sport a burgeoning underclass who bundle into the reduced chiller cabinet at 7pm each night when the man with the stickers paid £6 an hour starts putting 10p on every stinking thing.

It is possible to run a first world country with a bit of decorum you know but if you are intent on making your living with third world type exploitative profiteering I would not expect you to want to play any attractive game.

markprest

highrisklowreturn wrote: »

Their employees should be grateful for what they have and not complain. Compared to several decades ago, or those living in poorer countries (read: about 90% of the planet) they're living the life of riley on 14.5K. The fact that the company throws in stocks (+dividend, + potential capital growth, which could act as a 2nd pension) is a real bonus. Certainly more favourable than the bottom of the public sector.

I can't imagine what your delivery charges are ordering all your food from Cuba and North Korea.

Compared to several decades ago? / Living the life of Riley on £14,500 a year?/ Ordering food from Cuba and Korea?

Do you think anyone who seeks fairness or criticises mass exploitation is a communist? Is that how warped your mindset is? Be grateful for the crumbs from the table? You sound like a 19th century mill owner.

Has our headlong pursuit of a low-wage economy worked? It clearly has for the major retailers whose profits have risen massively over the last decade or two, but has it worked for the rest of us, when wage levels have barely moved in some key parts of our economy for a decade or more? Who does that suit? People like you?

markprest

It seems Aldi and Lidl pay the best hourly rates, but there are major caveats with allegations of bad company practices.

I can't post links because I'm a new user. You'll need to Google 'pay rates at Aldi' 'pay rates at Lild' and you'll find what I found. Lidl has faced allegations of bad-to-terrible company practices. There's a Guardian article from 2007 which makes grim reading for potential employees, but things may have changed drastically since.

Of the majors, Waitrose and M&S are considered the best overall employers but - as already said - none of them pays well. Even supervisors/managers at some stores are not paid much above minimum wage. Asda and Somerfield (which I think is now part of the Co-op) pay the worst rates. The Co-op itself is just as bad. That shouldn't have surprised me, but it did. I won't be shopping there again either. The information I found is from 2009, so things may have changed since - though I, somehow, doubt it.

And, no Casey, I have no idea if independents pay workers better than the majors, but I'm pretty sure they don't exploit people or evade taxes on anywhere near as large a scale. However, it's my money and I'll be happy to spend none of it at the major retailers

highrisklowreturn

2sides2everystory wrote: »

Well highrisklowreturn the cost of living is indeed a bit higher in the country in question but then the quality of life is a damned sight better too. For a start, they don't sport a burgeoning underclass who bundle into the reduced chiller cabinet at 7pm each night when the man with the stickers paid £6 an hour starts putting 10p on every stinking thing.

It is possible to run a first world country with a bit of decorum you know but if you are intent on making your living with third world type exploitative profiteering I would not expect you to want to play any attractive game.

You've yet to tell me where you're talking about so it can be empirically studied.

Since when was £14,500 and shares and pension and flexi time and unlimited overtime and decent working conditions third world, 50p a day style? You're being ridiculous again.

Your example of people not rushing to the "10p" reduced isle is like my saying if they opened marks and spencers, which don't do reduced isles, everywhere there would be no poor living standards. All you're coming out with is socialist platitudinal waffle.

highrisklowreturn

markprest wrote: »

Compared to several decades ago? / Living the life of Riley on £14,500 a year?/ Ordering food from Cuba and Korea?

Do you think anyone who seeks fairness or criticises mass exploitation is a communist? Is that how warped your mindset is? Be grateful for the crumbs from the table? You sound like a 19th century mill owner.

Has our headlong pursuit of a low-wage economy worked? It clearly has for the major retailers whose profits have risen massively over the last decade or two, but has it worked for the rest of us, when wage levels have barely moved in some key parts of our economy for a decade or more? Who does that suit? People like you?

I don't consider Tesco to be involved in mass exploitation. Quit the over-exaggeration - like now. It is you who possesses the warped mind-set, seeing oppression where it doesn't otherwise exist.

Those 19th century mill owners built the greatest world empire ever created.

Now man up. Like now.

Golden_Anemone

Markprest, we don't have Somerfield, Waitrose or Aldi in Northern Ireland.

I have friends with family members employed in M&S [20% staff and family discount] and Asda and Tesco [10%].

The only person I know who worked for Lidl - he was a graduate trainee manager - said it was the worst company he had ever worked for in his life. Most of their staff are eastern europeans in my local area which speaks volumes when so many are unemployed.

As said, pay rates are only one part of the employment "package" and therefore it's not just the hourly rate that matters.

markprest

highrisklowreturn wrote: »

Those 19th century mill owners built the greatest world empire ever created.

That's just what I thought you'd say.

There's a difference between 'exploitation' (my choice) and 'oppression' (your choice).

markprest

Golden_Anemone wrote: »

The only person I know who worked for Lidl - he was a graduate trainee manager - said it was the worst company he had ever worked for in his life.

Pretty much what the third line of my post said - 'Lidl has faced allegations of bad-to-terrible company practices'.

Are you seeing this as a personal attack? He's criticising Tesco/M&S/Asda/Sainsbury's for being barely better than minimum wage employers, so he must be criticising me or the people I know who work there?

Golden_Anemone

markprest wrote: »

Pretty much what the third line of my post said - 'Lidl has faced allegations of bad-to-terrible company practices'.

Are you seeing this as a personal attack? He's criticising Tesco/M&S/Asda/Sainsbury's for being barely better than minimum wage employers, so he must be criticising me or the people I know who work there?

1. Is there a rule in your book that says I can only post opinions that disagree with you? If so perhaps you would let the rest of us see your rules cos some of us often use this forum for general discussion rather than mere argument.

2. What on earth in what I wrote suggests that I see what you wrote as a personal attack? I do not and have never worked for one of the big supermarkets.

Good luck in getting the argument you seem to be determined to start! Personally I don't care enough. :rotfl: