Log cabins?

alm721

Does anyone know the rules regarding planning permission and log cabins. I understand that you can put them in your garden without pp subject to various conditions but does anyone know if this applies to land which is not garden (i.e a field). ? TIA

PasturesNew

Planning permission would be required in a field for most purposes.

If you're thinking "buy a field, bung on a log cabin and live in it", no chance. If it were that easy thousands will have been doing it for the last 20 years at least.

Debt_Free_Chick

PN is right

Depends on what type of field. If it's a paddock, you could build a stable block or barn. Agricultural - a barn, but possibly not a stable.

In either case, you'd still need PP. In certain areas, e.g. an AONB there would be conditions on the PP as well!

Macca got into trouble for building log cabin in the grounds of his pad in Peasmarsh. Rother District Council issued an enforcement notice requiring it to be torn down .... although I understand he's now "negotiating" something with them.

MenstrieBen

It is possible to put some things in your garden as "permissable development" depending on the size, use and the ammount of land available.

As far as I know this would not apply other than in a garden so it is likley that planning permission would be needed, especially if it was somewhere you were planning to live in.

Your best bet is to make an informal enquiry with your local planning department, as somethings like countryside development policies vary from place to place (new buildings may only be permitted where they are requred for workers at a farm etc.)

The planners will normally be approachable and happy to give guidance on what is OK, though personally I wouldn't hold out too much hope.

Sorry its not a more positive response!

margaretclare

A log cabin has been erected without planning permission here: http://www.echo-news.co.uk/search/display.var.2237557.0.updated_taxpayers_fund_travellers_community_centre.php

Is that the kind of thing you had in mind?

Canucklehead

Good morning: Relevant info is available on the Planning Portal .

HTH

Canucklehead

Trollfever

And a thread about one from Argos:

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=902393&highlight=argos

Debt_Free_Chick

Canucklehead wrote: »

Good morning: Relevant info is available on the Planning Portal .

HTH

Canucklehead

Although that seems to apply to development within a residential plot - whereas the OP is talking about "a field".

The Farmer's Guide to the Planning System might be a better bet. Even if the OP is not a farmer, the land sounds as if it would be "farming" or equestrian .....

harryhound

margaretclare wrote: »

A log cabin has been erected without planning permission here: http://www.echo-news.co.uk/search/display.var.2237557.0.updated_taxpayers_fund_travellers_community_centre.php

Is that the kind of thing you had in mind?

The basic rule for domestic property is: if you can get away with it for 4 years, you are "ultra vires". That is Latin for out of the reach of the power of the authority..
For non domestic breaches it is 10 years.
For most things, you can break the rules for 28 days per year (I think).
Dale Farm has been a fiasco for years and years, probably dating back a generation. Something tells me this could not happen in say Windsor.
Did you see the copy of the Sun, where they tried to set up a caravan in the field opposite John Prestcott's pad?

As the living conditions on Dale Farm (minus sewers etc.) are luxury for most people on this planet, I am concerned that any breakdown in civil society will produce Dale Farms all over the place.

Latest news here

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/7392008.stm

Canucklehead

Good evening: A family in Surrey tried to go the whole nine yards and built a castle under the cover of a huge stack of hay bales:T We're hoping to check it out the next time we're up that way...it might not be long for this world.

Canucklehead

harryhound

Canucklehead wrote: »

Good evening: A family in Surrey tried to go the whole nine yards and built a castle under the cover of a huge stack of hay bales:T We're hoping to check it out the next time we're up that way...it might not be long for this world.

Canucklehead

It is near Leatherhead I believe? It went all the way to a senior court?

I think the judge managed to convince himself that a human habitation has to have its OWN roof and as it was built inside a barn, it did not have its OWN roof open to the sky. Where Google etc. etc. etc. can spot what is going on??????????
(Let us know if you have better information?)
I think the judge was probably thinking of the "Adverse Possession" situation where the squatter must behave as if he has nothing to hide and has a right to do what he is doing. Judges don't like that law either and try to chip away at it.

Oh yes, there is safety in numbers and "vulnerable" people too, harking back to the cause celebre "Dale Farm" above.