Speeding ticket received 4 months after event!

themaccas

My OH has just received a speeding ticket 5 months after the event happened. It was a works car he was driving so the ticket went to them and they had to look back to see who was driving and inform the police. This has taken such a long time and it was only today my OH recieved all the paperwork including a summons as he had not paid the fine!!:mad:

He was furious and immediately phoned the tickets/fines office and they have told him that as long as he sends his licence with £60 in postal orders, they will give him 3 points and ignore the summons. He is very cross about this but his work have his signature to prove he signed the car out that day.

What I wanted to ask was as he has only today been informed of the offence hasn't too much time elapsed and isn't there a legal obligation to inform with 14 days?

jonathon

did thay inform the company within 14 days ?

bargepole

themaccas wrote: »

What I wanted to ask was as he has only today been informed of the offence hasn't too much time elapsed and isn't there a legal obligation to inform with 14 days?

The 14 day rule applies only to the Registered Keeper, which in this case was your husband's employer. If the RK nominates someone else as having been the driver at the time of the alleged offence, then the police must send that person a NIP/s172 request "within a resonable period of time", whatever that means.

What is puzzling here is how he could have got a Court summons: if the company nominated him on the original form, then he should have had another form sent to his home address, asking him to confirm he was driving, plus all his details. Once he sends that back, he should then get a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (£60 + 3 points), and only if he declines to pay that within 28 days would a summons normally be issued.

You may want to run this past a specialist motoring offences solicitor, as on the face of it the police ticket office and CPS have screwed up, certainly not for the first time.

themaccas

Thanks for your advice. I know, it's bizarre! He received a wad of paperwork today out of the blue, the alleged offence took place on 11/12/07 and it appears his emplyer sent the paperwork back to the police stating it was OH that was driving. Then today in the wad of paperwork was a NIP dated 11/1/08, and a letter saying he has failed to respond to the NIP and that a court day is set on 11/8/08. In the paperwork is signed statements from 2 police officers saying he was caught and that they calibrated their equipment etc, etc and grainy photos of someone in the car. It appears it was sent to his old works address originally but goodness knows when he was only posted to his current place of work a month ago.

I think they are assuming he's challenging the fine as they have not had any response from him. He doesn't know what to do really, this will take him to 9 points. He has been driving for 20 years and got his first 3 points last October 2007, then 3 more a month later - November 2007 and now another 3 points a month later. It's unbelievable and I hate driving with him because he is so sedate and slow!

What worries him now is because of this string of bad luck there are another 3 in the post to him from somewhere!

exel1966

themaccas wrote: »

It's unbelievable and I hate driving with him because he is so sedate and slow!

What worries him now is because of this string of bad luck there are another 3 in the post to him from somewhere!

Obviously not slow and sedate enough for the law though !

9 points in a few months doesn't equate to bad luck, it equates to a bad driver !!

Having said that, the law/regulations are there to be adhered to and that includes the correct notification/summons procedures have to be followed by the authorities.

THIS site may well have your answers.

EDIT : But I see that you have already posted on that site as well.

Conor_3

themaccas wrote: »

My OH has just received a speeding ticket 5 months after the event happened. It was a works car he was driving so the ticket went to them and they had to look back to see who was driving and inform the police. This has taken such a long time and it was only today my OH recieved all the paperwork including a summons as he had not paid the fine!!:mad:

He was furious and immediately phoned the tickets/fines office and they have told him that as long as he sends his licence with £60 in postal orders, they will give him 3 points and ignore the summons. He is very cross about this but his work have his signature to prove he signed the car out that day.

What I wanted to ask was as he has only today been informed of the offence hasn't too much time elapsed and isn't there a legal obligation to inform with 14 days?

They only have to inform the registered keeper within 14 days. Sorry, can't use that one.

Conor_3

themaccas wrote: »

My OH has just received a speeding ticket 5 months after the event happened. It was a works car he was driving so the ticket went to them and they had to look back to see who was driving and inform the police. This has taken such a long time and it was only today my OH recieved all the paperwork including a summons as he had not paid the fine!!:mad:

He was furious and immediately phoned the tickets/fines office and they have told him that as long as he sends his licence with £60 in postal orders, they will give him 3 points and ignore the summons. He is very cross about this but his work have his signature to prove he signed the car out that day.

What I wanted to ask was as he has only today been informed of the offence hasn't too much time elapsed and isn't there a legal obligation to inform with 14 days?

They only have to inform the registered keeper within 14 days. Sorry, can't use that one.

As for 9 points in 6 months? THATS POOR DRIVING. I've not had a single point in 15 years and 1.7 MILLION miles of driving.

3 points is excusable. Another 3 within 6 months of that isn't.

Not to worry, give it another 3 months and he'll get his final 3 and a ban.

greyteam1959

Always blunt and to the point eh Conor......
1.7 million miles in 15 years ......you are causing global warming all on your own mate !!!!!!!!!

goldspanners

mervyn11 wrote: »

Always blunt and to the point eh Conor......
1.7 million miles in 15 years ......you are causing global warming all on your own mate !!!!!!!!!

and he is so anal that he has added up how many miles he has driven over the past 15 years.
sad or what?:rotfl:

Pew_Pew_Pew_Lasers!

Theres nothing sad about that. I've driven 40,000 miles in the last 2 years. 15,000 miles in the year before that. 80,000 miles the 4 years before that. About 70,000 before those 4 years.

Its called paying attention to what you do, and having mechanical sympathy.

Guess what, I've never had any points on my licence since I got it in 1989. Does that make me anal also?

themaccas

Pew_Pew_Pew_Lasers! wrote: »

Theres nothing sad about that. I've driven 40,000 miles in the last 2 years. 15,000 miles in the year before that. 80,000 miles the 4 years before that. About 70,000 before those 4 years.

Its called paying attention to what you do, and having mechanical sympathy.

Guess what, I've never had any points on my licence since I got it in 1989. Does that make me anal also?

just wait for that letter to drop through your letterbox tomorrow...you won't feel so smug then