How much to renovate kitchen?

Benji

We are on the verge of doing some major changes to the house, but wan't some ball-park ideas of prices before we decide what's worth doing or not. This is a re-post because the 1st post was put in the wrong forum :-(

Our kitchen is 10' x 12' with painted / plastered walls. The floor has original (uneven) 1930s 4" quarry/teracotta tiles on compacted ash.

Can anyone give me an idea of the cost to.....

• Remove existing cabinets (I can do this myself if necessary)
• Remove UPVC window & external door and make good (a conservatory will be built on the outside).
• Skim & paint all walls - including removing approx 3 sq.m tiling (if necessary I can do the painting myself)
• Paint Ceiling
• Remove &/or level existing floor.
• Supply & Fit Rhinofloor or equivalent
• Minor plumbing to relocate sink/dishwasher
• Fit Ikea kitchen - approx 18 cabinets (I am able to build cabinets from flat-pack but 2 or 3 will need carpentry to fit). Obviously, the cost of the cabinets is separate to the rest of the job.

Can anyone give me an idea how long a job like this would take? We have to live in the house at the same time!

Do I have to wait a long time between re-flooring & laying the vinyl?

Do I have to wait a long time between plastering & painting?

We're not looking for quotes as such - just are we closer to 2000 or 5000 if you get the idea.

Norma_Desmond

We totally gutted/refurbished our kitchen last year and it's roughly the same size as yours, but we didn't have to remove any windows/doors and we have a travertine floor (laid onto concrete), Screwfix maple cabinets and solid walnut worktops - just about everything else was sourced online and from Ebay.
We were VERY lucky as we had a plasterer who could do everything including flooring, basic plumbing, tiling and joinery and he charged us 'mates rates' so I don't know how accurate my costings are but the whole thing took about 3 weeks start to finish and cost around £3,500 which we think is an absolute bargain! Looks fantastic too.
It IS disruptive having a kitchen 'done' from scratch but we're lucky enough to have a dining room where we set up the fridge freezer/microwave etc. tho' it got to be a real pain washing up in the downstairs loo.
The very best of luck!
We only waited a couple of weeks before painting

pandora205

Wow - that was a bargain!

I'm looking at some minor work in comparison: replacing worktops, handles and sink, retiling floor, plastering ceiling and thought it might come to about £2000, though I haven't gone into detail yet.

And I'd much prefer one person to do the lot, though the decorator I had for my lounge wouldn't have done the plastering but would do everything else I think (I've yet to ask for quotes as I'm trying to decide just what I want).

ukwoody

Remove the units your self as this will save the tradesmen time and at about £15 - £20 per hour thats worth it.

Cost of fitting the kitchen, About £40 per unit, BUT I would strongly recoomend getting a chippie/fitter in to do the whole lot and not just one or two units which you seem to be suggesting. Most of us detest going in half way through a job as you are then trying to match up with someones elses work and aren't aware of the problems ther has been (such as out of square walls, units not trued up) I personally charge more per hour for this sort of situation and I know many other do too.

If the Quarry tiles are sound and firmely fixed down, then a self levelling compund needs to be put over them first then you can cover with ever you like. I persoanlly like to leave it 48 hours, unless very thin, then next day.

Woody

bookduck

For putting together and hanging 8 wall cabinets and 7 floor cabinets, joining 3 worktops (kitchen n-shaped), cutting holes for sink and stove + plumbing in sink and taps £850 - no electrics or gas certificates. They want me to assemble the wall cabinets. I think it is on the steep side,

Benji

ukwoody wrote: »

Remove the units your self as this will save the tradesmen time and at about £15 - £20 per hour thats worth it.

Cost of fitting the kitchen, About £40 per unit, BUT I would strongly recoomend getting a chippie/fitter in to do the whole lot and not just one or two units which you seem to be suggesting. Most of us detest going in half way through a job as you are then trying to match up with someones elses work and aren't aware of the problems ther has been (such as out of square walls, units not trued up) I personally charge more per hour for this sort of situation and I know many other do too.

If the Quarry tiles are sound and firmely fixed down, then a self levelling compund needs to be put over them first then you can cover with ever you like. I persoanlly like to leave it 48 hours, unless very thin, then next day.

Woody

Thanks woody...

My idea was to build most of the units myself to save labour time, but have a pro fit them in place etc. As someone in-the-know how would that work for you? Incidentally, and I know this affects things, the units will be Ikea but the only forseeable problem is that a pair of water pipes that run along one wall will need to be dropped to skirting height.

Now, I know that things never go according to plan... but hows this for a plan?

WEEKEND: Remove Kitchen
MONDAY: Electrician / Plumber
TUESDAY: Plasterer
WEDNESDAY: Level floor
WEEKEND: Paint Walls / Ceiling**
MONDAY: Lay Flooring
TUE/WED: Build Units
THU/FRI: Fit Units

** Am I right in thinking that a coat of PVA on top of fresh plaster will allow me to emulsion the walls? I'd really like the walls painted before the flooring and units go in.

phill99

Woody is right - get a chippy to do all the chippying work and not just bits.

Your plan is fine except that I would recommend having a 'lead' tradesman (almost a project manager) who will do his own work but also make sure the other trades are tide in and turn up when needed, not when thay have been booked (there is a difference). Most decent chippes / kitchen fitters know and work with all the other trades - electrician, plumber etc. Trying to manage it yourself is when you are going to come unstuck. Its worth paying more to get it done properly and professionally rather than only get it half done. Remember a cheap kitchen fitted by a good fitter will look a million dollars. An expensive one fitted by a muppet will cost you dearly. Pay cheap and pay twice!

Benji

EverShaw wrote: »

the cost depends on many factors...

type of worktops...

full wooden ones (i.e. solid beech) will cost a couple of hundred pounds a length, granite will cost a few grand.

Then if you want appliances - the cost could vary massively depending upon the make and model.

If you are fitting everything yourselves..the units should cost around £1,000 to £1,200 depending on quantity. (for chipboard/formica type). You can almost double this for solid wood units.

If you are completely replacing your appliances, we will be able to do a deal (if you buy more than one) at www.evershawappliances.com
The website is new but the company has been operating for many years (www.evershaw.com) . We also supply sinks, basins, taps, worktops as well as ovens, hobs, fridges etc.

Hope this info helps

Jamie
www.evershawappliances.com

Thanks Jamie, though I think you're likely to get in trouble for repeatedly advertising in posts

To re-cap... Have already chosen units rom Ikea and can build them if that saves cost. Would want an expert to fit them though.

Worktops are likely to be Wickes post-formed as we've had them before & they last well for the money.

Appliances will be a mixture of old and new - not an issue here though because I can research prices etc online.

The 3 key parts of the job seem to be:

1. Skim walls
2. Level floor
3. Fit cabinets

Thanks all