Landlord refusing to return full deposit

MissMoneypenny

clutton wrote: »

what an unusual post for you Miss MP - knowledge is power, knowledge is confidence, - is getting heard, - is sticking up for yourself, - is getting what you are entitled to -

I would have been more impressed if it had been "Following the Law for Landlords" seminar. I am sure you are fully aware that tenants are afraid to make their LLs do their repairs (even though they are legally required to do this) for fear of being thrown out on a section 21. It made me feel sick to see that "Power to Landlord" seminar. "For over a decade Landlord Action has been working in the best interest of the Landlord sector." What kind of sick members of society are we breeding.

clutton wrote: »

shame on you

Shame on you for thinking that "Power to Landlord" seminars are a good thing.

clutton_2

lets not get into a slanging match over this - i have respected a huge amount of your posts in the past - and hopefully will continue to do so - maybe "shame" was a little harsh .....

there are always two sides to every argument, and if you had spent any time reading any of the posts on LLZ forum you would perhaps have seen a small glimpse of the "other side" of what LLs experience - the amount it costs us to repair property after bad tenants have left us, the amount of time and unpaid rent it costs us to get tenants out who agreed to pay the rent and then dont .... and on it goes

Tenants from here can learn a huge amount about how to present their case for 3xreturn of their deposit from LLZ - the same law applies to Landlord and Tenant - and if a LL loses a case - a tenant has gained knowledge from it and vice versa

not all LLs are scum

not all Tenants are angels

we each need advice and support to assert our own rights -

but equally we each need to fulfil our own obligations

i have learned a lot from here about how tenants feel and how they think, and what they expect from a LL - and i am grateful for that. Maybe you might learn a bit from LLZ .....

lets agree to differ .... at least for the time being ?

SquatNow

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

"Power to Landlord" seminars. How sad is that!

Does it involve applying a live 230v mains cable?

clutton wrote: »

there are always two sides to every argument, and if you had spent any time reading any of the posts on LLZ forum you would perhaps have seen a small glimpse of the "other side" of what LLs experience - the amount it costs us to repair property after bad tenants have left us, the amount of time and unpaid rent it costs us to get tenants out who agreed to pay the rent and then dont .... and on it goes

The problem is that while the right are there to protect "good" landlords they are open to abuse by "bad" landlords and no attempt has been made to prevent this.

The ability for a landlord to evict a tennant on a whim essentially takes away any legal responsibility the landlord has to behiave like a resonable human being.

Renting on the continent is far more popular entirely because the landlords can't abuse their powers.

Bring back security of tennancy and clear out the scumbags. The "good" landlords wont care as they will have no intention of ever kicking out a paying tennant.

nrsql

>> The ability for a landlord to evict a tennant on a whim
Ever tried to remove a bad tenant? It's not that easy or quick.

>> Renting on the continent is far more popular entirely because the landlords can't abuse their powers.
Ever rented on the continent? I would really like to have some of the powers that those landlords have - would make lots more money.

Generali

nrsql wrote: »

Ever rented on the continent? I would really like to have some of the powers that those landlords have - would make lots more money.

Interesting comment. I used to rent in France. Which of the powers that my French LL had would have made you lots more money do you think?

I also know a fair bit about renting in Germnay if that's the country that you meant (I looked into working in Frankfurt in 2002).

clutton_2

squatnow assertion that "" The problem is that while the right are there to protect "good" landlords they are open to abuse by "bad" landlords and no attempt has been made to prevent this""

in the last 5 years there has been a plethora of legislation to protect tenants, many of which make a LL's job administratively more time-consuming

Tenancy Deposit Scheme;
HMO regs;
HHSRS;
Energy efficiency certificates,
more powers to Environmental Health to prosecute non-compliant landlords
Selective licensing
Local Housing Allowance

thats just off the top of my head

so please stop playing the "victim tenant" card - this government has made many many moves to prevent more Nicholas Van whatisface's being allowed to trade and abuse the lives of ordinary folks.

What everyone on here forgets, is that there are millions, yes, millions, of ordinary landlords, and the vast majority of them are good decent folks -

Like any "media" this forum only highlights the worst - when did you last read a thread called "I've got a fantastic landlord ?" - folks simply dont come to forums to share good news - so lets have a bit of balance please

poppy10_2

"Power to Landlord" seminars

SquatNow wrote: »

Does it involve applying a live 230v mains cable?

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: Well done :T

clutton_2

when i tried a search for "Power to Landlord" seminars on LLZ forum i got referred to a thread complaining about NPower !!!

i never did find the seminar ....

prudryden

clutton wrote: »

when i tried a search for "Power to Landlord" seminars on LLZ forum i got referred to a thread complaining about NPower !!!

i never did find the seminar ....

June 8th at the Park Inn, Heathrow. Bit expensive at £300. More to do with running a business rather than the psychological ramifications of tenant/landlord relationships or not.

RabbitMad

back to the op - over on landlord zone or consumer forums there are a couple of threads where tenants on renewed tenancies have used the threat of 3x to get their whole deposits back from their landlords.

Worth checking out (if you can navigate your way throught all of the "bleed your tenant dry" "why bother doing repairs" and "all tenants are scum and should be treated as such" threads)