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Implications of buying a leasehold house

Had an offer accepted on a house that is leasehold (900 odd years left on it apparently). It is essential we can extend the house, that was one of the reasons we liked it (the potential).

Having read a bit on this forum and the internet, I understand some freeholders can be funny about things like that and that permission (and poss. payoff!?!?) is required.

Is it too early to ask our solicitor to find out all the ins and outs of the leasehold? Any other important things to be aware of?

Comments

  • eldowardo
    eldowardo Posts: 71 Forumite
    never too early to ask anything with your solicitor, better off finding out early on in the process rather than later on where you will havespent time and money into things
  • viktory
    viktory Posts: 7,635 Forumite
    Since I started working in a leasehold department I would never, ever buy leasehold. I am currently sending out bills to the tune of £20k - each. If you are determined to go ahead ask your solicitor to check for any service charges and major works charges that are outstanding and if there are any major works in the pipeline.
  • Kavanne
    Kavanne Posts: 5,093 Forumite
    I am also in the process of checking this with my solicitor. In our docs for the flat we're buying is a letter giving 'restrospective' permission for the leaseholder to install new double glazing (ie: the leaseholder did it then got permission) and in my lease it says we need permission for any alterations :-o So I've asked my solicitor if this includes new carpets, new curtain poles, picture hooks.. all those silly little things because it would be a LOT of effort to get permission for all those things!

    viktory, what do you mean by major work charges? We want to knock down a wall at some point, how much do you think the freeholder will want to charge us?!
    Kavanne
    Nuns! Nuns! Reverse!

    'I do my job, do you do yours?'

  • Stevie1
    Stevie1 Posts: 198 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    As I said, this is a house not a flat, so issues regarding service charges and/or maintenance company costs do not apply here.
  • We had a leasehold house for many years (18years) until recently - we had no problems whats so ever doing an extension and making structural changes - simply wrote to the leaseholder named in the lease (as this was a requirement within the lease documentation) - we had no charges, even after the freeholder had died. We had no problems apart from a minor issue when the landlord went into a home and no one collected the ground rent for a year (we needed a reciept when we were selling) but that was resolved. We considered buying the freehold, but with a very low ground rent and a lease of 999 (minus 50 years) everyone told us that it was not worth the approx £6,500 cost (including the freeholders legal costs). Don't forget you will also have the right to purchase the freehold after two years (which can be less if the freeholder agrees).
  • EdInvestor
    EdInvestor Posts: 15,749 Forumite
    Generally these very long leasehold houses are not a problem, but there have been recent cases of some rather spivvy companies buying them up and then attempting to charge leaseholders for various activities. So a close inspection of the lease conditions would be wise to check there is no scope for this kind of thing - and it may be worth checking the cost of buying the freehold, which is often quite low - a few hundred pounds.
    Trying to keep it simple...;)
  • clutton_2
    clutton_2 Posts: 11,149 Forumite
    i have several leasehold houses - and a few are owned by the same company. When i first bought one of theirs they wrote asking me for £117.50 as i had not paid the ground rent of £0.15s.6d (about 75p).

    I knew that they are not allowed to charge any more than is in the original lease - and can only claim 6 years worth of late ground rent - so i wrote quoting the relevant Act and now they invoice me yearly for £0.75p !!!

    But the letters they send look like court documents - and they are not, so if you get one, dont pay it !!!
  • Sometimes the freeholds belong to little old ladies who are the granddaughters etc of the original builder and they often forget to collect the ground rent. If you can contact them you may not have too much difficulty getting a consent for alterations from them if this is required by the terms of the lease.

    However I do agree with this comment which puts it very well:
    Generally these very long leasehold houses are not a problem, but there have been recent cases of some rather spivvy companies buying them up and then attempting to charge leaseholders for various activities. So a close inspection of the lease conditions would be wise to check there is no scope for this kind of thing - and it may be worth checking the cost of buying the freehold, which is often quite low - a few hundred pounds.
    RICHARD WEBSTER

    As a retired conveyancing solicitor I believe the information given in the post to be useful assuming any properties concerned are in England/Wales but I accept no liability for it.
  • Stevie1
    Stevie1 Posts: 198 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Thanks Richard and everyone else:beer:
  • nelly_2
    nelly_2 Posts: 17,863 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    All this leasold freehold lark really gets on my tits

    Its like they said Oi the peasants actually want to own their own house?

    Really well lets make it so we still own the land ! we cant have peasants actually having things

    It might actually only be a few quid a year but its absolutely dissgusting and rooten to the core.

    It sums up this country to a tee

    WE WILL TAKE MONEY OFF YOU ANY WAY WE CAN!
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