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any plumbers around this morning

the story so far:

my cold tank is overflowing into my bath outlet (in a ground floor flat and bathroom isn't near an outside wall hence the way it's plumbed. I had a plumber out about 6mths ago because it had been overflowing for ages and he diagnosed water hammer, fitted a value to the cold tank and did something to the ball c*ck thingie. I ran a bath last night and the water has started pouring out of the overflow again.
Firstly to stop the water going into the cold tank is the valve like supposed to be horizontal or vertical.
Secondly does it sound like the stick with the ball c*ck on it is stiff/stuck and just needs adjusting?

thanks for any help it will be gratefully received.

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  • Canucklehead
    Canucklehead Posts: 6,254 Forumite
    Hi

    I don't know what type of value you have.If it has a lever it will be on when it's in line with the pipe and off when 90 degrees across the pipe. The same applies to the screwdriver slot type.

    I would suggest the ballvalue be either re-washered and cleaned or replaced.Something the plumber hasn't done (from your description) Adjusting the level only delays the inevitable ,it will overflow.

    Corgi Guy.
    Ask to see CIPHE (Chartered Institute of Plumbing & Heating Engineering)
  • Lemon_Tree
    Lemon_Tree Posts: 10,202 Forumite
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    thank you, i thought he had replaced the valve at the same time as he fitted the value which stops the water flowing into the tank. Guess he didn't and i'd best start saving again to get it fixed properly.
  • ormus
    ormus Posts: 42,714 Forumite
    http://www.screwfix.com/prods/14542/Plumbing/Toilet-Fittings/Part-1-Float-Valve

    its probably summat like this. very common. they cost very little and fairly simple to replace.
    Get some gorm.
  • Canucklehead
    Canucklehead Posts: 6,254 Forumite
    Hi

    Summat like that, but not quite.

    It should be.... http://www.screwfix.com/prods/11518/Plumbing/Toilet-Fittings/Float-Valve-Part-2?cm_re=SEARCHPROMO-_-FLOAT%20VALVE%20PART%202-_-11518
    The water discharges OVER the valve rather than under. Back flow prevention is the reason.

    Lemon Tree, I only assumed it was not changed as you didn't indicate it had.Is there anything that is on top of the storage tank that is stopping the float from lifting up enough to stop the flow?

    Corgi Guy.
    Ask to see CIPHE (Chartered Institute of Plumbing & Heating Engineering)
  • Lemon_Tree
    Lemon_Tree Posts: 10,202 Forumite
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    had a feel around, unfortunately the tank is in a horrible position to get access to and no way of seeing in the top. I've stopped the leak, the stick with the ball on it seems to move freely but now i'm convinced i've turned the inlet valve too many times and stopped all water entirely. Does it matter how many times you've turned it? because i've returned it to how the plumber left it, ran the tap but i'm not convinced it's filling back up.
    Sorry to be so lame
  • Lemon_Tree
    Lemon_Tree Posts: 10,202 Forumite
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    ps i remember seeing something like that when the plumber visited last year, but i'm not sure he replaced it, it definately looks like he replaced the bit where it connects to the side of the tank though
  • Canucklehead
    Canucklehead Posts: 6,254 Forumite
    Hi

    Do you have one of these http://www.screwfix.com/prods/24721/Plumbing/Brassware/Full-Bore-Isolating-Valve-Chrome-22mm

    Or one of these http://www.screwfix.com/prods/15940/Plumbing/Brassware/Stop-!!!!-15mm

    Torch and a mirror if you want to see in the tank.(you might not if it's dirty!)

    Corgi Guy.
    Ask to see CIPHE (Chartered Institute of Plumbing & Heating Engineering)
  • Lemon_Tree
    Lemon_Tree Posts: 10,202 Forumite
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    thanks for being so patient i've got the first one.
  • espresso
    espresso Posts: 16,448 Forumite
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    Lemon_Tree wrote: »
    thanks for being so patient i've got the first one.

    When the screwdriver slot is as shown in the photo, the valve should be fully open.
    :doh: Blue text on this forum usually signifies hyperlinks, so click on them!..:wall:
  • Lemon_Tree
    Lemon_Tree Posts: 10,202 Forumite
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    thank you, it's like that but not fully open, the plumber shut is down slightly because of the water pressure which was coming in to the tank and was causing the 'water hammer' before.
    The overflow has stopped and i'm trying to beleive i've not broken everything and there is water going into it. Wish i'd trained as a plumber or something useful like that :)
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