Awful BT

Atomised

Hi,

I am very angry right now.

Blacksheep1979

I think that in this day and age it's a disgrace that people don't plan ahead...

Blacksheep1979

well obviously you're not describing the situation in any great depth but generally tennancy agreements will have a 1 month notice period, employers will usually give a reasonable period of time too...

Blacksheep1979

If you rent you have a tennancy agreement in principal irrelevant of if you have one in writing.

As for BT it's normally quite quick if there's an existing line if not then they have to send someone out which depends on how busy they are. Now obviously if they have a lot of new lines being installed it will take longer and they're not going to hire new people just for a short spell.

You could ask for compensation though.

lokiman

Blacksheep1979 wrote: »

If you rent you have a tennancy agreement in principal irrelevant of if you have one in writing.

As for BT it's normally quite quick if there's an existing line if not then they have to send someone out which depends on how busy they are. Now obviously if they have a lot of new lines being installed it will take longer and they're not going to hire new people just for a short spell.

You could ask for compensation though.

Except for the fact that BT won't even schedule the move of your line until the existing occupants of the premises to which you are moving have had their phone line switched off. I know, because this is precisely what happened to me when I moved two months ago. With three weeks to go before the move, I attempted to make sure that my phone line would be switched to the new premises on the day that I moved in, only to be informed that, as the people from whom I was buying were not having their phone line switched off until the day prior to the move (fair enough), they couldn't schedule the switch of the phone line until then. So, you can try and plan sometimes.............

wantmemoney

http://www2.bt.com/btPortal/application?origin=tm_con_hub_page.jsp&event=bea.portal.framework.internal.portlet.event&pageid=total_movers_con&portletid=total_movers_con&wfevent=event.tm_overview&LEFT_NAV=setUpTime
Moving home:
Organise your move

The more notice you give us about your move, the more likely it is we can set up your services on a day that suits you.

Under our contract with you we require at least 14 days notice to stop your line at your current address. In addition by giving us at least 5 working days notice we will aim to activate your BT Broadband connection at the same time as your phone line.

If you are moving to a newly built home - or want an additional line - it may take slightly longer.

How much does it cost?

If there's a working BT line in your new property connection should be free of charge, but if the line needs to be reconnected to BT or a new line is required a connection charge of £124.99 will apply. Our advisors will confirm this when you call.

are BT still charging avoidable unnecessary 'reconnection' charges?

wantmemoney

Atomised wrote:

I don't understand why BT charge such an ott amount. If there is a socket in the house , how do they estimate that £124 is a fair price ?

greed? profit?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2007/nov/10/moneysupplement.internetphonesbroadband
People moving home are being charged a £125 reconnection fee by BT - even if the previous owner was a customer of the telecom giant. Those who call BT to complain have been left waiting on hold for hours.
Two weeks ago, Guardian Money told how BT was penalising people moving into a new home where the previous occupant had switched their landline to a rival supplier.
Now it appears the former monopoly provider has been taking advantage of consumer confusion, and its dominant position, by applying the same charge randomly to thousands of customers moving house.
The £125 fee, which, some might say, makes a mockery of Ofcom's attempts to bring down the cost of phone and broadband services, came about because it seems no one at the regulator considered what would what happen to "movers" under its new regime.
It does not help that the BT department responsible for connecting new customers appears to be in chaos. People are complaining it is impossible to contact - and those that do get through are often given contradictory information.
Some customers told Guardian Money they have spent more than 10 hours on the phone trying to resolve the problem, while others complain the £125 fee was "absurd" and "exorbitant".
Meanwhile, engineers are not turning up to appointments. In 2005, Ofcom insisted that BT create a separate company (now called Openreach) to manage the engineers who connect homes to the exchange. The split was intended to give all the telecoms companies equal access to the exchange network, to stimulate competition.
However, one of the unintended consequences of the decision appears to be much higher reconnection charges when a customer moves house.
BT's residential arm is allowed to charge the £125 fee if the previous occupier switched their landline to a rival supplier, through what is known as local loop unbundling. It appears to have plucked this unregulated figure out of the air, as it pays Openreach considerably less for the switch.
The problem is occurring when someone informs their telephone provider they are moving and that they want to terminate their contract.
After extensive questioning this week, BT revealed that the imposition of the charge largely depends on whether the house is near a busy exchange, where demand for lines is high. In that case, lines freed up are being quickly offered for re-use. In quiet areas, they can sit undisturbed for up to five years.
New occupiers are automatically charged the £125 fee, regardless of who used to supply the phone service. However, BT said this week that the charge should not be payable if the previous occupier was with BT. This has been refuted by readers' experiences.
Police officer Fred Trott contacted Money after reading our original article. He said he and his wife had been charged £125 when they moved into their home in Haslemere, Surrey.
The previous owner had been with OneTel, but had agreed to switch their service back to BT before they moved out. The Trotts moved in but faced an endless battle to make BT see this - its staff insisted the £125 fee was payable.
The pair, loyal BT customers for many years, say they have spent more than 10 hours on the phone to various BT departments trying to get the charge repaid - but to no avail.
A spokesman for BT says the current position regarding the £125 fee is "not ideal" and that it is looking at how it can be changed. "Where a working line exists, our intention is that reconnection should be free - but a charge of £125 applies where we have to involve an engineer.
"Where a customer is returning to join BT from a local loop unbundled competitor, our systems default to charging £125. We do intend to change this as soon as possible. It is one of a number of complex changes arising from BT Retail's adoption of a new IT system to comply with its commitment to the regulator, Ofcom."
It also confirmed that it has now refunded Mr Trott's £125 charge.
Ofcom says it is aware of the situation and that it is working with the Office of the Telecoms Adjudicator (OTA) to rectify this problem. "The matter should be resolved by next spring," says a spokeswoman. "It is important that customers are confident in the switching process and it is essential that there are no obstacles in the way. We are working via the OTA and industry to have all telecoms providers on the new system by spring 2008."

Atomised wrote:

I don't understand why BT charge such an ott amount. If there is a socket in the house , how do they estimate that £124 is a fair price ? Unless it is set up for cable I'm not sure what the engineer has to do ,I was hoping a person who works BT could answer .