Might have to lose my apple... :-(

[Deleted User]

Are you kidding? If you got rid of IBM AIX i'd be out of a job, not to mention you'd need to spend billions redeveloping mainframe computer systems (as an example, most of the systems in the new NHS IT project are based around Oracle running on IBM AIX boxes.

I use AIX and VMS on a regular basis and they do have their place, as does Apple

PROLIANT

ringo_24601 wrote: »

Are you kidding? If you got rid of IBM AIX i'd be out of a job, not to mention you'd need to spend billions redeveloping mainframe computer systems (as an example, most of the systems in the new NHS IT project are based around Oracle running on IBM AIX boxes.

I use AIX and VMS on a regular basis and they do have their place, as does Apple

I wiped UNIXWARE 7.1 off a PROLIANT ML370 last month and put 2003 R2 and MS SQL, migrated the old oracle database here to, runs like shi* off a shovel, wohaa, like you say there is a lot of legacy mainframes and servers out there with proprietary applications running like Argos (AURA), ASDA (S.M.A.R.T) and a few legacy MRP II systems as well, I am not old skool I even configure CISCO kit using the ASDM (GUI).

Bob63

cazziebo wrote: »

The accountants say there isn't an acceptable equivalent for Excel in Apple - they won't migrate whatever.

Unfortunately if they are using VB macros then they are right. MS Office on Mac doesn't run the same macros that MS Office on Windows can - meaning docs aren't fully interoperable between the two platforms.

OpenOffice of course means you can use the same OpenDoc file format on all platforms, but that's another argument altogether!

BillScarab

PROLIANT wrote: »

Apple has no place in this world anymore, along with IBM AIX and legacy UNIX, love them or hate them microsoft is the world leader and too right, how many of you on here use Novell, UNIX, IBM AIX(IBM's version of UNIX), Apple, Linux operating systems, not many albet.

:rotfl:I spend my working life supporting samd installing systems running AIX, HP-UX, RedHat and, primarily, Solaris. We also have a few W2K and W2K3 servers. However virtually all the new servers we're building are Solaris 10.

Microsoft may be the world leader in Desktops but they sure aren't in servers.

G30RG3

If they supply with u A normle pc for free whats stopping you from saying ohh i wanna keep this or w/e and still use it when ur not doing work for work if u know what i mean

Moneymaker

For the record, I run my business on Apple Macs. That's why I'm MAKING money and not SPENDING it on I.T. support.

It's also why I can spare time to help out here.

almillar

OK, a new MacBook is going to cost more than a new Dell lump. But you have already stated that you are more productive using MacOSX. Is that really worth skimping £400 on?!
Get the MacBook, and a license for Windows XP, get XP installed after OSX (dual boot/BootCamp) and let IT install Excel onto it. Any other 'Windows only' stuff can now be used by you, and for everything else you still have good old OSX. They'll spend more than £400 trying to train you in Windows!
Of course, as has already been mentioned, this assumes that it is indeed a problem with macros/Visual Basic (Windows only) and not a general misunderdstanding about the availability of Office Mac.
Alan

isofa

Actually Excel was first written and released for the Apple Mac, long before Windows even existed, by Microsoft - in around 1984-1985. So I'd suggest the accountants do their research! It is one of the longest standard Mac applications, now fully part of Mac Office.

MS have just dropped VBA support from the new Mac Office 2008, but Office 2004 and previous versions all are identical to the PC versions, usually with a few more features to take advantage of Mac only features (graph transparency long before it existed in PC office etc). I use Office 2004 all the time on the Mac, because I have a lot of custom VBA functions for Excel. And swap files with all our PCs running Office 2000, Office 2003 and 2007 with no problems.

Mac Office 2008 is equivalent to PC Office 2007.
Mac Office 2004 is equivalent to PC Office 2003 etc.

With all new Intel based Macs you can boot them into Windows, or install virtualisation software to run odd Windows software not directly available for the Mac too, some niche accountancy packages are Windows only. But most mainstream software is available for Macs and PCs.

PROLIANT

Moneymaker wrote: »

For the record, I run my business on Apple Macs. That's why I'm MAKING money and not SPENDING it on I.T. support.

It's also why I can spare time to help out here.

And your servers are....Windows

Bob63

unrich wrote: »

By switching to Wintel machines there will be a training requirement to bring you up to speed with Vista. The training requirement will have cost implications. Lost time. Time taken to achieve current levels of productivity, money/budget required for training.

Vista also has significant security implications. Several corporations I know are refusing to let staff switch to Vista until these are evaluated and fully understood.

Always remember - VISTA = Virus Inside Switch To Apple.