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Selling - negative equity

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  • silvercar
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    you need to come to an arrangement with the lender to convert the amount unpaid to an unsecured loan. If the lender won't agree then you should try and get a loan elsewhere so that the mortgage will be repaid at time of sale. If you can't clear the mortgage (or reach agreement with lender) the sale can't proceed.

    The thing to be careful of, is that you and your ex are jointly liable for the shortfall. You can't say to your lender here is my half of the shortfall chase my ex for the other half, it all has to be sorted prior to sale.
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  • pinkshoes
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    missed your breakfast ? )

    lol yes, actually I did!

    A BLT is so much more tempting in today's market than a BTL.

    And now you've got me thinking about bacon sandwiches... Am going to go and sweettalk the canteen into making me one! Brown bread or white? Ketchup or brown sauce?
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  • JimmyTheWig
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    How amicable is the split?
    What are the chances of you both keeping your shares of the house and renting it out for a while until the early redemption period is finished.
    Maybe your partner could carry on living their (paying their half of the mortgage) and you could rent out "your half" to pay your half of the mortgage?

    If things aren't amicable then I'd have thought you would need to take legal advice...
  • Hi

    Silvercar is quite right that you need to come to an agreement with the lender and also agree the valuation of the property.

    However.............if you can't reach an agreement and there are no other options available work out how much you would need to discharge their liability.

    Then ask you solicitor to write to the Head Office to say that whilst you have a ready and willing buyer IF you find you have to hand them the keys then you will accept no further liability than the amount discussed.

    This is an extreeeemly risky action to take but it might work depending whether you want to sell now or see if values fall further.

    This is only the action that I would take and if its not for you then don't do it.

    With NR they might accept an arrangement they seem good at it.
  • JimmyTheWig
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    mightymouse,

    I'm afraid I can't follow what you're suggesting. Sounds like it might be good advice, but you lost me. Could you explain it again, maybe giving some examples of figures?

    Jim
  • Hi Jimmy

    Sorry if its not clear.

    I need to re read op but firstly it may not be good advice, it depends on your point of view..

    If its a choice between selling at a loss or handing in the keys then which option will produce the bigger loss.

    If the lender sells then it will be expensive with no guarantee of getting the price that someone is willing to pay now.

    In any Court action that follows for Mortgage shortfall the lender will have to account for their actions and the op or anyone will stand a better chance of reducing the claim if they have tried to get the better price and have facts and figures to back this up.

    Be warned the Lender is under no duty to agree this as they will see it as holding a gun to their head.

    However they are under a duty to get the highest price for the house and unless they are not very bright they should realise that a bird in the hand etc, they should deal now.
  • JimmyTheWig
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    Oh I see what you mean. It _is_ like holding a gun to their head.
    I see where you're coming from, but think it's time the OP takes legal advice.
  • LittleTinker
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    Henneb......As a matter of interest, do you have any children?
  • Rick62
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    I think mightymouse is on the right line. You have several options;

    1. Rent out - terrible idea, a property you don't want with an ex partner in a falling market.

    2. Obtain loan from bank/family to cover shortfall on sale.

    3. Negotiate with NR. See if they will waive or at least reduce penalty, or/and see if they will accept shortfall paid over, say, 12 months. As mightymouse says put in writing from your lawyer. State firmly that this is the best option for them (as well as you). Maybe back up with letter from EA about current values.
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