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Halifax -2.5 MoM

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  • neas
    neas Posts: 3,801 Forumite
    Which will boost inflation yaay oO
  • HenryWeston
    HenryWeston Posts: 198 Forumite
    -5% in the west midlands
  • LillyJ
    LillyJ Posts: 1,732 Forumite
    Homebuyers are in a stronger position than in the past
    Buyers have been putting down bigger deposits than in previous cycles. 82% of all new borrowers put down a deposit of more than 10% of the house price during the final quarter of 2007. By contrast, 56% of new borrowers put down a deposit of more than 10% in 1989 and 1990.

    The average deposit put down by a first-time buyer (FTB) in 2007 (£34,381) represented 20% of the purchaser price compared with 12% in 1989. Only 5% of FTBs took out a loan of 100% or more of the purchase price in 2007 compared with 35% in 1990

    So all this "we used to have to save for deposits harder than you have to now days, we went without shoes and food and hot water just to be able to afford a house blah blah blah" is just crap?

    I am fed up with older people telling us younger people that we just waste our money and don't deserve to be able to buy, when it turns out people were more reckless in the 80's!!!!!
  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    LillyJ wrote: »
    Homebuyers are in a stronger position than in the past
    Buyers have been putting down bigger deposits than in previous cycles. 82% of all new borrowers put down a deposit of more than 10% of the house price during the final quarter of 2007. By contrast, 56% of new borrowers put down a deposit of more than 10% in 1989 and 1990.


    The average deposit put down by a first-time buyer (FTB) in 2007 (£34,381) represented 20% of the purchaser price compared with 12% in 1989. Only 5% of FTBs took out a loan of 100% or more of the purchase price in 2007 compared with 35% in 1990
    So all this "we used to have to save for deposits harder than you have to now days, we went without shoes and food and hot water just to be able to afford a house blah blah blah" is just crap?

    I am fed up with older people telling us younger people that we just waste our money and don't deserve to be able to buy, when it turns out people were more reckless in the 80's!!!!!

    So if the average FTB in 2007 was puting down 20% deposit on houses, where is the unaffordability ;) they could afford a higher purchase price ;)

    No-one can deny that a lot of people live nowaday on credit when they did not do so much before
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • LillyJ
    LillyJ Posts: 1,732 Forumite
    So if the average FTB in 2007 was puting down 20% deposit on houses, where is the unaffordability ;) they could afford a higher purchase price ;)

    No-one can deny that a lot of people live nowaday on credit when they did not do so much before

    Well, I think that has just been proven wrong.

    People give the impression that everyone had massive deposits in the 80's and that 100% mortgages are a new thing. Clearly people were even more greedy in those days.

    Rose tinted glasses I think.
  • Guy_Montag
    Guy_Montag Posts: 2,291 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    So if the average FTB in 2007 was puting down 20% deposit on houses, where is the unaffordability ;) they could afford a higher purchase price ;)

    No-one can deny that a lot of people live nowaday on credit when they did not do so much before

    I agree, something doesn't ring true here.
    "Mrs. Pench, you've won the car contest, would you like a triumph spitfire or 3000 in cash?" He smiled.
    Mrs. Pench took the money. "What will you do with it all? Not that it's any of my business," he giggled.
    "I think I'll become an alcoholic," said Betty.
  • skap7309
    skap7309 Posts: 874 Forumite
    neas wrote: »
    http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30400-1312106,00.html
    News feed from sky..

    Time for the parrrrtty lads :)

    *Does a crash dance*

    Already there my friend, already there.................Bring it on.

    Has anyone noticed how not a month goes by now without 'experts' continously revising their predicitons lower and lower and lower? All good stuff.
  • WTF?_2
    WTF?_2 Posts: 4,592 Forumite
    LillyJ wrote: »
    Well, I think that has just been proven wrong.

    People give the impression that everyone had massive deposits in the 80's and that 100% mortgages are a new thing. Clearly people were even more greedy in those days.

    Rose tinted glasses I think.


    Those '100% mortgages' back in the 90s were likely to have been mostly the now discredited endowment mortgages where you take out an interest-only loan alongside an endowment policy designed to pay off the capital amount upon maturity.

    The modern 100% mortgage is a totally different beast: Got no money but want to jump on the property bandwagon? No problem - just borrow 100% of the asking price from us, no awkward questions asked. We're sure that ever-rising house prices will keep you covered. :rotfl:
    --
    Every pound less borrowed (to buy a house) is more than two pounds less to repay and more than three pounds less to earn, over the course of a typical mortgage.
  • Is it a crash? or just a long overdue correction? I say this because the 'value' of my property has ballooned to rediculous levels, I live in what is in effect a 30ft x 35ft garden shed, supposedly worth £450k!!
    [strike]Debt @ LBM 04/07 £14,804[/strike]01/08 [strike]£10,472[/strike]now debt free:j

    Target: Stay debt free
  • m00m00
    m00m00 Posts: 1,755 Forumite
    Guy_Montag wrote: »
    I agree, something doesn't ring true here.

    well the halifax figures are based on halifax's own business. In general they were not big players in the 100%+ marketplace.

    also deposits for FTBs will have been including a lot of vendor gifted deposits on newbuilds etc, skewing the figures.
    It's a health benefit ...
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