dodgy breadmaker? bread sponge like and sunken

Aeshna

TomsMom wrote: »

I've just dusted off my Hinari Homebaker HB164

I did actually tip the dough out after 2 hours (programme is 4hr 15min) to remove the paddle as I remember from when I used to use it previously the large hole made by the paddle, but replaced it immediately.

Such an obvious idea, why didn't I think of that?? My Hinari beeps at me once it's done mixing the dough and I never knew why, or am I putting two and two together and getting five?? Anyway, thanks for the tip :T - no idea about the bread sinking, but I'm grateful for your question anyhow!!

Aeshna x

Butterfly_Brain

Did you use the whole sachet of yeast? I had a problem with loaves sinking and found it was because a whole sachet is equal to 7ml and you only need to use 5ml
Or it could be too much liquid or not enough salt
Damp humid weather can cause it to sink as well

TomsMom

Butterfly_Brain wrote: »

Did you use the whole sachet of yeast?

No BB, I measured out 1tsp as per recipe, I have a set of measuring spoons and flattened it off so it was accurate.

JennyW_2

Are you using strong wholemeal (not brown) and strong white, specifically for bread machines?

The tesco sachets are what I use (one tsp).

I also believe the make of flour plays a bit part in a successful loaf. i get great results from Waitrose Organic and although I keep trying Hovis, sainsbury, tesco, I always come back to Waitrose - never a bad loaf.

Also, the tops usually sink if there is too much fluid. I always use 20ml less water - try this.

I personally wouldn't disturb the resting period of the dough by taking out the paddle, but then the paddle hole never bothers me

Oh, I've also tried Tesco Stonground wholemeal - awful stuff - had terrible results

zippychick

Aeshna wrote: »

Such an obvious idea, why didn't I think of that?? My Hinari beeps at me once it's done mixing the dough and I never knew why, or am I putting two and two together and getting five?? Anyway, thanks for the tip :T - no idea about the bread sinking, but I'm grateful for your question anyhow!!

Aeshna x

The beeping is to indicate you can now add nuts/fruit/sundried tomatoes etc. I don't think that co incides with the time the dough starts to cook - I can check my instructions and the cycle time when at home. If you look at the cycle time of that programme , you would remove the dough and paddle just when it starts to cook.

TomsMom

JennyW wrote: »

Are you using strong wholemeal (not brown) and strong white, specifically for bread machines?

Yes - the Tesco was stoneground wholemeal strong flour (which I shall be taking back for a refund under their satisfaction guarantee) and the white was Canadiadian very strong white. The Tesco one said suitable for bread makers but the white just said suitable for breadmaking and pasta.

Unfortunately there is no Waitrose where I live or even if I go shopping to the a city 60 miles away.

Also, the tops usually sink if there is too much fluid. I always use 20ml less water - try this.

I'll do this when I get some new flour and see how it goes.

I personally wouldn't disturb the resting period of the dough by taking out the paddle, but then the paddle hole never bothers me

We just prefer sandwiches without a hole in the middle of the slice, that's all. The paddle goes a fair way up into the loaf.

Oh, I've also tried Tesco Stonground wholemeal - awful stuff - had terrible results

I'm glad it's just not us then :rotfl: . The taste really isn't that nice and all the ingredients are fresh as just purchased.

blahn

I use Sainsbury's Stoneground Wholemeal and it makes fab 100% wholemeal loaves, regular or sandwich. I don't think it's the amount of salt as I use sainsbury's yeast and add the full amount. I also use a mill for the salt (what a pain!) and I only ever do around half because I don't see the point of any more. I don't get any sunken tops. That said I reduce the sugar a bit too after advice on the bread maker thread.

Aeshna

zippychick wrote: »

The beeping is to indicate you can now add nuts/fruit/sundried tomatoes etc. I don't think that co incides with the time the dough starts to cook - I can check my instructions and the cycle time when at home. If you look at the cycle time of that programme , you would remove the dough and paddle just when it starts to cook.

Thanks Zippychick - I inherited the machine recently so no instructions! I haven't done anything except the basic loaf and I have to say the paddle really annoys me when I take the loaf out and get left with a not so lovely big hole!

Aeshna x

ariba10

Aeshna wrote: »

Thanks Zippychick - I inherited the machine recently so no instructions! I haven't done anything except the basic loaf and I have to say the paddle really annoys me when I take the loaf out and get left with a not so lovely big hole!

Aeshna x

Is this of any use.?

Hinari breadmaker manuals can be obtained from CPC(who supply manuals for the company). They can be contacted on 01772 654455 or email them at sales@cpc.co.uk

hinari breadmaker manuals and also spare parts can also be obtained from alba bush goodmans, you can phone them on 0208 787 3100

Their full address is:-


Alba radio PLC
Spare parts department
No 12 Thames road.
Barking
Essex
IG11 OH2

Aeshna

Thanks ariba10, you're a star!

Aeshna