Fluoride in tap water

Moggles_2

Toothsmith wrote: »

Now you're just getting all emotional again!

Dear me, that has to be the weakest argument yet to this debate.:rolleyes:

Many thanks to tbs624 for his/her contributions to this thought-provoking thread.:T

BernardM

Hello everyone,

I read most of thread just this evening. I thought most of you who have written here would probably be very interested in some excellent articles written here.http://www.virginiahopkinstestkits.com/fluoridemain.html

Very convincing arguments against it, but I am not posting for an argument with those who are in favour here. I am just posting links to the information for everyone. I hope you all have time to read them and dig deeper.

There are 3 related articles on the issue

A_fiend_for_life

An interesting overview on fluoridation.

http://www.theecologist.org/pages/archive_detail.asp?comments=y&content_id=1876

BernardM

Fluoride Added To Children’s Milk In Schools Throughout UK City

Kids now drinking poison waste product first used as mood stimulant by Nazis
Monday, Oct 27, 2008
Fluoride is being added to children’s milk in 42 schools throughout the city of Sheffield in the UK, despite the chemical’s proven link to liver and kidney damage, cancer and the lowering of IQ.
“A new strategy with the focus of preventing dental problems among children is be introduced in Sheffield,” reports the Yorkshire Post.
The move comes in response to figures showing that the state of children’s teeth in the city is slightly higher than the national average.
“At present, fluoride is added to children’s milk in 42 primary schools in the city. This will continue, and the local NHS is also planning to begin talks on the possibility of adding fluoride to water.” the report continues.
While Fluoride has been proven to have a minimal effect in the prevention of tooth decay, the negative effects of the chemical are legion according to several medical studies, far outweighing any positive aspects.
A recent Scientific American study “Concluded that fluoride can subtly alter endocrine function, especially in the thyroid — the gland that produces hormones regulating growth and metabolism.”
The report also notes that “a series of epidemiological studies in China have associated high fluoride exposures with lower IQ.”
50 per cent of the fluoride taken in on a daily basis remains in the body for life, accumulating in the skeleton. This can cause, skeletal fluorosis, a crippling and painful condition.
“Epidemiological studies and tests on lab animals suggest that high fluoride exposure increases the risk of bone fracture, especially in vulnerable populations such as the elderly and diabetics,” writes Dan Fagin.
Fagin interviewed Steven Levy, director of the Iowa Fluoride Study which tracked about 700 Iowa children for sixteen years. Nine-year-old “Iowa children who lived in communities where the water was fluoridated were 50 percent more likely to have mild fluorosis… than [nine-year-old] children living in nonfluoridated areas of the state,” writes Fagin.
The study adds to a growing literature of shocking scientific studies proving fluoride’s link with all manner of health defects, even as governments in the west, including recently the UK, make plans to mass medicate the population against their will with this deadly toxin.

Sodium fluoride can also cause dental fluorosis (fluoride-discolored teeth) which can be an indicator of kidney function harm according to an August 2006 study in Environmental Research. The study found that “water fluoride levels over 2.0 mg/L can cause damage to liver and kidney functions in children.”
2.0 mg is routinely exceeded daily by means of intake through milk, tea, toothpaste, fish, crops irrigated with fluoridated water and some medicines and food processed using fluoridated water. through food.
60 per cent of the U.S. population also drinks sodium-fluoride contaminated water, with the government aiming to increase that number to 75% by 2010.
In 2005, a study conducted at the Harvard School of Dental Health found that fluoride in tap water directly contributes to causing bone cancer in young boys.
“New American research suggests that boys exposed to fluoride between the ages of five and 10 will suffer an increased rate of osteosarcoma - bone cancer - between the ages of 10 and 19,” according to a London Observer article about the study.
Based on the findings of the study, the respected Environmental Working Group lobbied to have fluoride in tap water be added to the US government’s classified list of substances known or anticipated to cause cancer in humans.
Cancer rates in the U.S. have skyrocketed with one in three people now contracting the disease at some stage in their life.
The link to bone cancer has also been discovered by other scientists, but a controversy ensued after it emerged that Harvard Professor Chester Douglass, who downplayed the connection in his final report, was in fact editor-in-chief of The Colgate Oral Health Report, a quarterly newsletter funded by Colgate-Palmolive Co., which makes fluoridated toothpaste.
An August 2006 Chinese study found that fluoride in drinking water damages children’s liver and kidney functions.
FACTS ABOUT FLUORIDE
- Fluoride is a waste by-product of the fertilizer and aluminum industry and it’s also a Part II Poison under the UK Poisons Act 1972.
- Fluoride is one of the basic ingredients in both PROZAC (FLUoxetene Hydrochloride) and Sarin nerve gas (Isopropyl-Methyl-Phosphoryl FLUoride).
- USAF Major George R. Jordan testified before Un-American Activity committees of Congress in the 1950’s that in his post as U.S.-Soviet liaison officer, the Soviets openly admitted to “Using the fluoride in the water supplies in their concentration camps, to make the prisoners stupid, docile, and subservient.”
- The first occurrence of fluoridated drinking water on Earth was found in Germany’s Nazi prison camps. The Gestapo had little concern about fluoride’s supposed effect on children’s teeth; their alleged reason for mass-medicating water with sodium fluoride was to sterilize humans and force the people in their concentration camps into calm submission. (Ref. book: “The Crime and Punishment of I.G. Farben” by Joseph Borkin.)
- 97% of western Europe has rejected fluoridated water due to the known health risks, however 10% of Britons drink it and the UK government is trying to fast track the fluoridation of the entire country’s water supply.
- In Germany, Belgium and Luxembourg fluoridation of water was rejected because it was classified as compulsive medication against the subject’s will and therefore violated fundamental human rights.
- In November of 2006, the American Dental Association (ADA) advised that parents should avoid giving babies fluoridated water.
- Sources of fluoride include: fluoride dental products, fluoride pesticides, fluoridated pharmaceuticals, processed foods made with fluoridated water, and tea.

Toothsmith

BernardM wrote: »

Hello everyone,

I read most of thread just this evening. I thought most of you who have written here would probably be very interested in some excellent articles written here.http://www.virginiahopkinstestkits.com/fluoridemain.html

Very convincing arguments against it, but I am not posting for an argument with those who are in favour here. I am just posting links to the information for everyone. I hope you all have time to read them and dig deeper.

There are 3 related articles on the issue

Interesting advert on the left of that page for a 'ladybug' which you can stick on your mobile phone to 'reduce the radiation'.

Obviously a publication that's well into it's science, and not looking to whip up scare stories then!!!

Toothsmith

A_fiend_for_life wrote: »

An interesting overview on fluoridation.

http://www.theecologist.org/pages/archive_detail.asp?comments=y&content_id=1876

And the advert for the current issue bears the headline 'MEAT' with a picture of blood dripping from someone's highly glossed lips.

So that's a balanced rational magazine then!

Toothsmith

BernardM wrote: »

Fluoride ................................................................and tea.

Sorry - just too full of billhooks for me to bother with.

Just proves you can cut and paste - try understanding.

1. Difference between 'toxic' dose and 'theraputic' dose. Practically everything has both.

2. how many of those studies or nasty references are of water fluoridated to 1ppm?

BernardM

http://fluoride.ecobytes.net/Alert/United-Kingdom/England/Sheffield-Fluoride-is-added-to-children-s-milk-in-42-primary-schools

BernardM

http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS108377%2B02-Jan-2008%2BPRN20080102

BernardM

New Research: Fluoride Damages Children's Liver and Kidneys (NYSCOF)

PRNewwire | August 23 2006

Fluoride in drinking water damages children's liver and kidney functions, according to a new study in "Environmental Research"(1), reports the New York State Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation (NYSCOF).
Xiong and colleagues write, "Our results suggest that drinking water fluoride levels over 2.0 mg/L can cause damage to liver and kidney functions in children." Further, dental fluorosis (fluoride-discolored teeth) can be an indicator of kidney function harm, they report.

Researchers grouped 210 Chinese children (aged 10 - 12 years old) by drinking water fluoride levels (averaging 0.76; 1.47; 2.58; and 4.5l mg/L). Dental fluorosis rates, respectively, were 15%, 41%, 79% and 94%.

Blood serum and urine samples revealed:

-- fluoride levels increased as water fluoride levels increased

-- liver and kidney enzymes elevated, indicative of liver or kidney
damage, in children drinking water with over 2mg fluoride per liter.

-- liver function can be damaged without dental fluorosis

"Dose-effect relationship between water fluoride levels and damage to liver and kidney functions in animals has been reported," the authors write. However, this is one of the few to do so in humans. The liver and kidneys are especially susceptible to fluoride toxicity, they write.

Paul Beeber, NYSCOF President says, "2 mg fluoride daily is very often exceeded from food, beverages, pharmaceuticals, and dental products. Clearly this is more evidence showing fluoridation is not only harmful, but unethical and immoral," says Beeber.

To prevent crippling skeletal fluorosis, the Environmental Protection Agency set 4 mg/L as the maximum fluoride contamination of drinking water. But this doesn't protect all Americans from all of fluoride's adverse effects, according to a recent National Academy of Sciences (NAS) fluoride panel(2)

After reviewing hundreds of studies over 3-1/2 years, at least three scientists on the NAS panel recommend water fluoride levels be lowered well under 1 mg/L -- the current level dentists claim is optimal to reduce cavities, and deliberately added to public water supplies.(3)

"Fluoridated water is also linked to thyroid dysfunction, bone damage and cancer in humans -- even at 1 mg/L," says Beeber. "Americans are guinea pigs for the country's failed fluoridation experiment."

More information about fluoride's adverse kidney effects here: http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/kidney

Contact: Paul Beeber, Esq., 516-433-8882, nyscof@aol.com


http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof

Paul Connett, Ph.D, Retired Chemistry Professor Emeritus and

Executive Director, Fluoride Action Network, 315-379-9200


http://www.FluorideAction.Net

References:

1) http://!!!!!!!.com/l4hho

2) http://www.nap.edu/catalog/11571.html

3) http://www.fluoridealert.org/conference/about.htm