Counterfeit money pen

taliwillow

Hello,

This is probably in the wrong place but I have no idea where to put it. I need to get hold of a counterfeit money pen tomorrow as have someone coming to look at my car on Sunday and they want to buy with cash there and then as they live so far away. Obviously as I need it tomorrow I can't buy one online so does anyone know what shops sell them? I have searched online and found that Maplins do but I think it's online only. Any ideas? Or any other ideas how to check the notes aren't fraudulent (other than looking at them all individually as there will probably be at least £5500 there)?

Thanks

Taliwillow

secret_squirrel_5

Local police station/crime prevention officer?

Jockthearab

http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/kyb_lo_res.pdf

Try this link, gives you info on what to look for in genuine notes.

Hope that helps,

JtA

Willman_Rodders

Hi taliwillow,

I don't know where to get hold of a counterfeit-checking pen but ...

all bank notes have a number of features contained within them to help you identify if they are genuine.

The hardest one to emulate and the easiest to check is the raised printing on the top of each bank note - where it says 'Bank of England'. If you slide your fingers across the top of a genuine note you will feel the paper is slightly embossed. There are a number of other raised/embossed parts to all notes but this is the easiest to check.

Then you have:

• the hologram - this is difficult to duplicate;
• the metal strip in the note;
• the watermark of the Queen's head (seen when held up to a strong light) - though I have seen many forgeries that copied this feature reasonably well - though gave the Queen an ugly expression of her face;
• and the general colour and quality feel of the printed paper.

I also recall some other test of rubbing the note on a piece of white paper and the genuine note will leave a small mark - but I'm sorry I can't remember the exact details of this test - someone will no doubt fill you in. (and I see that since starting my post Jockthearab has found the technical answer; thanks Jockthearab.)

When taking cash do not feel embarrased by keeping the buyer waiting; they are paying you, they want your car. You must keep them waiting until you are sure you have genuine notes - and if this means checking every note then you check every note. A fraudster (or even a drug dealer trying to 'clean' dirty money) will not like to be kept waiting and may pressurise you into moving quicker than you want. If they threaten to walk away - because your keeping them waiting - then let them walk away; the genuine buyer will understand your concerns.

Hope the above help.

Rod

izoomzoom

My local Big Petrol service station uses them. Perhaps you could ask for the use of one, in return for a small deposit .

Also if you handle a large quantity of cash the 'fake' note tends to just stand out.

Mind you, you won't notice if the whole lot is fake ! LOL

lamb7994

I've bought them from Whsmiths and staples before.

James

whatatwit

My local office stationery shop sells them, or WHSmiths.

The instructions are usually on the pen.
I would also have a play with a couple of my own notes first.

advent1122

I would make the buyer accompany me to the bank whilst I deposit the cash BEFORE signing over the car- especially for that amount.
EDIT.... They are coming Sunday so they know the banks will be shut and you wont be able to deposit until the next day.

taliwillow

Hello,

Thanks for all of your responses. I have managed to get one from our local stationery shop. Couldn't find one in WH Smith. Just have to see what happens now. We have someone coming later today too with cash so hopefully someone will buy it. Just not sure now what to do as both sound extremely keen (the ones today are driving around 1 1/2 hours, the one tomorrow 2 1/2 hours) and am sure they would both haggle, but what if I sell today but the man tomorrow would have paid more? I know that sounds greedy but I need as much as I can get as anything we get over £5k is what I will have to buy a replacement car with as the £5k is to clear a loan. As the car is up at £5999 I can't imagine I will be left with much for a replacement car and have no idea what sort of car in that price range would be the best value for money but also safe for my family.

Thanks again

Taliwillow

izoomzoom

If you get what you are asking for, then I would let the car go. If the person coming today offers you a negotiated price, get them to give you their best offer and then say you will make a decision tomorrow once the other person has had a chance to offer you their best price.

£ 6000 for another car - I would be very happy with whatever car I could get for that amount. Our first car (5 years ago) cost us £100 (with MOT) and it lasted the year :money: :money: :money: .

Best of luck

taliwillow

Hello,

No I won't have £6000 for a car, I will have anything up to £1000. If we sell the car for £6k, £5k will pay off a loan and the remaining £1k will be for a replacement car, but if they haggle, then obviously the amount I will have for another will be less than £1k.

Taliwillow