Is this a fair price??

dirtbag_2

Supply and fit a Worcester 24i junior to existing system plus prog stat for £1370 + VAT????

IJJoseph

Depends where you are. If you are just looking to remove the old boiler and put the new one in place then labour should be about £300. Prog stat could be anywhere between £20 and £120. I wouldn't know about the cost of the Worcester because I wouldn't use it as it's not as good as a Vaillant.

jimmyjim_uk

dirtbag wrote:

Supply and fit a Worcester 24i junior to existing system plus prog stat for £1370 + VAT????

If its just the boiler you are getting, sounds rather expensive to me. If you are getting a heating pack as sold Here than that would be ok.

The radiators mentioned in that pack are stelrad elites, which are good steel panel radiators for the home.

dirtbag_2

Just the bolier. He replaced a Vaillant with the Worcester. I found the Worcester on Discounted Heating Website for £504.08 incl VAT. On the same day he charged me 380 +Vat to Norsham power cleanse and flush system. Total bill came to £2107 including VAT for less than 1 days work. I am committed to paying the bill (I did ask for a quote before hand but he said he couldnt say) He now suggests taking up my floorboards to find a leak but I am out of money and cannot afford any more work done.
Has he ripped me off?? Should I use someone else in future??
How can I find a leak in my system without ripping up floorboards or digging up concrete floors??
Any help would be much appreciated.

jimmyjim_uk

dirtbag wrote:

Just the bolier. He replaced a Vaillant with the Worcester. I found the Worcester on Discounted Heating Website for £504.08 incl VAT. On the same day he charged me 380 +Vat to Norsham power cleanse and flush system. Total bill came to £2107 including VAT for less than 1 days work. I am committed to paying the bill (I did ask for a quote before hand but he said he couldnt say) He now suggests taking up my floorboards to find a leak but I am out of money and cannot afford any more work done.
Has he ripped me off?? Should I use someone else in future??
How can I find a leak in my system without ripping up floorboards or digging up concrete floors??
Any help would be much appreciated.

Try and negiotate the bill if you can, it seems a bit excessive for a boiler swap and system flush.

It is good practice to carry out a system flush after installing a new boiler as it helps protect the heat exchanger. But it isn't essential, you can usually get away without it. Unless the system is full of sludge.

I do hope that price included for a corrosion inhibitor (i.e. Fernox).

Why is there a leak? Is there a drop in system pressure? Sounds like he is trying to get a few more quid out of you. Ask how he knows that there is leak in the system if he hasn't seen one.

budgetflyer

I hope you live in Scotland.In England and Wales you have to fit Condensing boilers now unless it is impossible to do so.

IJJoseph

There's nothing wrong with condensing boilers. If you buy a good make (with stainless steel heat exchanger) then they should last as long as a non condensing and they are much more efficient, which saves you money.

IJJoseph

Echo jimmyjim comment. Sounds excessive. Leak shouldn't be too difficult to find as such but you may have to lift floorboards. How old is the house? It's quite unusual to bury pipes in concrete now for obvious reasons. If there is a leak it should show itself as a drop in pressure over time. Normally you top up the water on the boiler until the pressure gauge reads around 1.5 bar (middle of the green section). Leave it a few days and check it. It shouldn't have changed too much. If it has changed by 1/4 bar or more then it's pretty certain you have a leak. You will have to find it or you'll end up with a bigger bill due to the damage the water will cause. The only other thing you can do is and some rad seal to the system but I would not recommend it. Do the job properly the first time and you'll save yourself a fortune!

budgetflyer

IJJoseph wrote:

There's nothing wrong with condensing boilers. If you buy a good make (with stainless steel heat exchanger) then they should last as long as a non condensing and they are much more efficient, which saves you money.

I wasnt inferring anything wrong with them,just that the particular boiler wasn't condensing and shouldn't really be fitted in England and Wales now