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Conservatory Insulation???

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  • mikeopvc
    mikeopvc Posts: 912 Forumite
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    peediedj wrote: »
    I CAN ASSURE YOU IT ISNT EXEMPT,I HAVE EVERYTHING YOU LISTED ABOVE but still had to get plans drawn up and give building control answers to over 15 questions they asked about it,and i still havent got a building warrant yet!"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Could you be a bit more specific, it may help others to learn why yours requires building control consent.
    What are the reasons for your conservatory needing planning permission?
  • peediedj
    peediedj Posts: 1,267 Forumite
    mikeopvc wrote: »
    Could you be a bit more specific, it may help others to learn why yours requires building control consent.
    What are the reasons for your conservatory needing planning permission?
    not sure why,got planning permission ok,but to get a building warrant they want to know loads of info,not sure if its to do with me having a extension already or because i live in a national park:confused:
    Live in my shoes for a week,then tell me your lifes hard!
  • Canucklehead
    Canucklehead Posts: 6,254 Forumite
    Errata wrote: »
    Info on planning and bulding regs for conservatories here http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/

    Good morning: As Errata suggested on 19/03, the Planning Portal website will be able to address the queries posted to date...the Interactive House facility is very helpful.. http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/hhg/houseguide.html ...take a look as it can answer a range of queries related to building regulations as well as planning. My OH refers his clients to the site when they question the requirement for condensing boilers etc.;)

    HTH

    Canucklehead
    Ask to see CIPHE (Chartered Institute of Plumbing & Heating Engineering)
  • mikeopvc
    mikeopvc Posts: 912 Forumite
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    nelly wrote: »
    We are on MSE? really I never knew check my post count

    Use your brain !!!!!! as a percentage what do you think the walls make up of a canny?

    10% max the rest is glass and polycarb.

    The rules on houses that stipulate k glass dont count on connys because the planners no that it ammounts to nothing anyway.

    And at 20 quid for wall insulation what exactly is the point of 20 quids worth of wall insulation on a ten grand build?

    Think before you post please.
    warm air rises........... in a conny insulating the bottom 2 foot will save about 2 pence per decade

    No need to get ratty Nelly, I do think before I post and always with the OP's best interests in mind,I was just simply pointing out that anything we do to reduce heating costs has got to be a good thing, no matter how small.

    Also, a conni is usually made up of 3 new sides and a back wall, the back wall is an external house wall so is thermally efficient inc the patio/french doors and any windows already in it. My point is that if this wall and any frames can be energy efficient then why can't the conni walls and frames be made up at the same standard. OK admittedly that does still leave the roof which is the most difficult part to insulate but there are options available, a U-value of up to 1.8 (maybe more now since my last check) can be acheived with some polycarbs and if opting for glass then up to 1.1 U-value.
    The saving has got to be more than 2 pence per decade I reckon.
    ;)
  • and I can assure you that if it is as I described THEN IT IS!!! You WONT get a COMPLETION certificate preciseley BECAUSE it is an exempt building. Have a look at the statutory instrument Scedule 2 Regulation 9 Class VII Extensions: The extension of a building by the addition at ground level of- (a) a conservatory, porch, covered yard

    where the floor area of that extension does not exceed 30m2, provided that in the case of a conbservatory or porch whic is wholly or partially gl;azed, the glazing satisfies the requirements of Part N of schedule 1 ( thats breaks in a safe way)

    SO if your conservatory is as I described earlier it IS EXEMPT!!!! If your local authoruty are acting insuch a manner it is acting vexatiously. Talk to LABC or seek a determination.
  • molerat
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    peediedj wrote: »
    not sure why,got planning permission ok,but to get a building warrant they want to know loads of info,not sure if its to do with me having a extension already or because i live in a national park:confused:
    If your conservatory is more than 8m2 or closer than 1m from your boundary then you will need a building warrant / building regulations approval.
  • tomstickland
    tomstickland Posts: 19,538 Forumite
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    Isn't insulating conservatory walls a bit pointless anyway?
    Happy chappy
  • molerat wrote: »
    If your conservatory is more than 8m2 or closer than 1m from your boundary then you will need a building warrant / building regulations approval.

    Sorry Mole rat.. but where the hell did you get this from? Maybe I am missing something here.. but what the hell is a Building warrant anyway?

    As far as the Building Regualtions are concerned.. I refer you to my previous posts!!
  • molerat
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    Sorry Mole rat.. but where the hell did you get this from? Maybe I am missing something here.. but what the hell is a Building warrant anyway?

    As far as the Building Regualtions are concerned.. I refer you to my previous posts!!
    From the SCOTTISH building regulations (where Peediedj lives). http://www.sbsa.gov.uk/pdfs/FAQ07.pdf

    20. Is there any building work that is exempted from the requirements of the Building (Scotland)Regulations 2004?
    [FONT=Arial,Arial][FONT=Arial,Arial]Yes. Certain broad categories of buildings are exempt, and the full list is included in schedule 1 in section 0 of the Technical Handbooks. Some examples covering the small buildings associated with houses, flats or maisonettes that are exempt from the building regulations are given below. If you are not sure, you should seek advice from a professional or the verifier.[/FONT]

    [/FONT]c) A single-storey conservatory or porch with a floor area of not more than 8 square metres that is attached to an existing
    [FONT=Arial,Arial][FONT=Arial,Arial]house[/FONT][/FONT], and:

    is at least 1 metre from a boundary,

    does not contain a fixed solid fuel, oil or gas appliance,

    does not contain a sanitary fitting,

    meets the regulations on safety glazing;
  • molerat wrote: »
    From the SCOTTISH building regulations (where Peediedj lives). http://www.sbsa.gov.uk/pdfs/FAQ07.pdf

    20. Is there any building work that is exempted from the requirements of the Building (Scotland)Regulations 2004?
    [FONT=Arial,Arial][FONT=Arial,Arial]Yes. Certain broad categories of buildings are exempt, and thAHHHHe full list is included in schedule 1 in section 0 of the Technical Handbooks. Some examples covering the small buildings associated with houses, flats or maisonettes that are exempt from the building regulations are given below. If you are not sure, you should seek advice from a professional or the verifier.[/FONT]

    [/FONT]c) A single-storey conservatory or porch with a floor area of not more than 8 square metres that is attached to an existing
    [FONT=Arial,Arial][FONT=Arial,Arial]house[/FONT][/FONT], and:

    is at least 1 metre from a boundary,

    does not contain a fixed solid fuel, oil or gas appliance,

    does not contain a sanitary fitting,

    meets the regulations on safety glazing;

    AHHHHH Thanks for that.. I was wondering!!
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