Help For my elderly MOM

dmg24

roy62 wrote: »

Where do some people live Nazi Germany.
She is entitled to a free roof over her head and £124 for living expenses.

Where do you live - La La Land?!

margaretclare

dmg24 wrote: »

Sometimes I feel invisible!

Sorry about that. Thanks for your informative post.

Margaret

margaretclare

dmg24 wrote: »

They would, and have done this. All because someone is above certain age, it does not make them above the law.

There was a case a few miles from here where a caravan was parked on green-belt land and that was allowed because a man was running a pig-farm. OK, he wasn't 70 but wasn't in good health, had emphysema....

With foot-and-mouth or the other animal diseases, pigs all had to be slaughtered, result, no pig farm, no right to live on green belt, evicted - result: man died of hypothermia and emphysema from sleeping in car because he was 'not entitled' to be rehoused.

With this lady, she would be thought of as being in a 'vulnerable group' therefore given extra consideration e.g. sheltered housing. But she's already in sheltered housing! Where do you go from there?

Margaret

Kez100

The family should understand her predicament. If they cannot raise the money to reinstate the gifts, then the very least they can do is give her a roof over her head for losing so much after showing such generosity.

pesky_princess

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

Don't be so silly, and don't rant from a position of ignorance, please.

"Immigrants" are hardly one group. But to give a few examples:

(1) Those who come on a spouse or family visa - they get leave to remain, usually for 2 years, and CANNOT have ANY access to public funds;

(2) Those who come as students / work permits / highly skilled migrants. Usually visas for up to 5 years, NO access to public funds;

(3) Asylum seekers. They get vouchers for less than income support (not cash) and are moved around the country all the time.

asylum seekers (from your view have a hard time being moved around the country all the time *bless* ) they have access to healthcare, education and social services. If they fulfil certain criteria they are also entitled to receive subsistence benefits and accommodation.
They get a living allowance , given in vouchers (yes you are right there :rolleyes: ) exchangeable for CASH at post offices.
They also (if pregnant) get maternity payments. (£300) AND their childs milk paid for them which is extra to all the benefits.
They get around £40 a week (70% of basic income support)
If they have a child/children they get 100% of childs basic income support which is around £38 a week - so together there is nearly £80 a week then there is child benefit on top of that...we are pushing the £100 a week mark now.
asylum seekers are entitled to free accomodation on a no choice basis (aww poor them) they also have effort made for them to be housed near people who speak the same language(lucky aren't they?)

The NHS provides all asylum seekers with
a GP
a dentist
family planning
social services.
free hospital treatment
free prescriptions
free nhs wigs
free sight tests
free eyewear

oh! and they get legal aid too!

I have probably missed one or two things out but hey! This list here is quite a healthy freebie list in anyones eyes dont ch'ya think?

I KNOW i am certainly not in the minority in being slightly disgruntled when strangers to our country are getting all of the above and we who live and were born here have to fight tooth and nail to get anything for which they have paid into for years and years (especially the elderly!)

If that makes me ignorant then so be it... I for one are sick of the government taking the pi**.

Oh and don't call me silly either thank you. I am not silly... I never insulted you, so have some manners.

Errata

asylum seekers are entitled to free accomodation on a no choice basis (aww poor them) they also have effort made for them to be housed near people who speak the same language(lucky aren't they?)

I see bigotry is alive and well and being fully demonstrated in this thread.

As the OP now understands the situation, could this thread be closed please, to prevent further unpleasantness.

pesky_princess

nothing bigotry about supplying information! These asylum seekers are in fact lucky like i said also! where else would they get all this except our wonderful country and government? :rolleyes:

neverdespairgirl

pesky_princess wrote: »

asylum seekers (from your view have a hard time being moved around the country all the time *bless* ) they have access to healthcare, education and social services. If they fulfil certain criteria they are also entitled to receive subsistence benefits and accommodation.

pesky_princess wrote: »

asylum seekers are entitled to free accomodation on a no choice basis (aww poor them) they also have effort made for them to be housed near people who speak the same language(lucky aren't they?)

Do you have any idea what the "no choice" basis actually means? Thought not.

I have a client who was on s.4 NASS support for 4 years. In that time, she lived in 25 flats in 9 different cities. In each case, she shared a room with someone she'd never met before, from a totally different culture. She couldn't make friends or community ties, because she was moved so often at a week's notice. Oh, and she'd previously been raped and tortured because of her family's perceived religious beliefs.

pesky_princess wrote: »

They get around £40 a week (70% of basic income support)
If they have a child/children they get 100% of childs basic income support which is around £38 a week - so together there is nearly £80 a week then there is child benefit on top of that...we are pushing the £100 a week mark now.

Imagine being moved around the country like she was. She couldn't work, had a lot less than basic income support, and couldn't settle at all.

pesky_princess wrote: »

oh! and they get legal aid too!

I have probably missed one or two things out but hey! This list here is quite a healthy freebie list in anyones eyes dont ch'ya think?

Um. Nope. And legal aid is pretty damn limited for asylum seekers.

pesky_princess wrote: »

Oh and don't call me silly either thank you. I am not silly... I never insulted you, so have some manners.

Silly was positively polite, given the racist and ill-informed ranting.

thursdaynext

I think the point is... I'm proud to live in this wonderful country, where there is respect for basic human rights such as the right to live without being scared the secret police are going to come knocking, the right to free speech, the right to be whoever we want to be without being tortured or killed.

I am happy that when pregnant women flee rape, beatings, torture, murder, we provide their babies with milk.

Unfortunately, the price I have to pay is listening to people like you, and paying taxes. Might not be moneysaving, but I think that's an absolute bargain.

neverdespairgirl

thursdaynext wrote: »

I think the point is... I'm proud to live in this wonderful country, where there is respect for basic human rights

Unfortunately, the price I have to pay is listening to people like you, and paying taxes. Might not be moneysaving, but I think that's an absolute bargain.

I completely and utterly agree with you.