does the menopause ever end?

chesky369

"hysterectomy is NOT the only solution"
absolutely right - I had fibroids many moons ago and both my GP and the hospital were really keen to get me under the knife. Being rather averse to having unnecessary operations, I kept stalling (surprisingly difficult with the NHS) until I began to realise that they weren't a problem any more. As I say, this was a long time ago and I guess they've just gone post-menopause.

Ted_Hutchinson

WishI'dReadSooner wrote: »

Ted - I really don't like the look of that diet. looks too much like the Atkins diet & that certainly didn't do a lot for him! It also didn't do a lot for the health of those that followed it if i remember correctly. I'll pass on that one.

Obesity, Type 2 Diabetes and Heart Disease - what does history tell us?
Do read this through and follow the links in the article. Remember also Hunter Gatherers lived mainly outdoors. Humans existed for 2million years or more before the invention of farming and refined carbohydrates are a relatively recent introduction so I think what our bodies naturally evolved to consume is probably the most healthy. If you want to go into this issue in greater detail the presentation here Loren Cordain: Potential Therapeutic Characteristics of Pre-agricultural Diets in the Prevention and Treatment of Multiple Sclerosis provides the science. (Although aimed at MS sufferers it applies to many other chronic conditions)

How Did Atkins Die - Death Of Dr. Robert Atkins -

Ted - you're the supplement King (sorry I thought you were a Queen - but it did say I in your post! ) any brilliant suggestions????

Well the suggestions Dr McCleary makes in his book are probably going to be the most effective. He did after all spent his whole working life investigating how best to improve brain nutrition to ensure his brain surgery patients made the best possible recovery from the operations he performed. His book devotes 9 pages to the explaination of what is happening when a hot flash occurs and why it occurs and what to do about it. But if you mind is closed to the information that your brain may function better on a low carb diet you will probably have to continue to live with the consequences as Dr McCleary clearly supports (hence the link from his site to Judy Barnes Baker - Carb Wars Cookbook) low carb eating.

margaretclare

Thank you, Ted. A quote from the article above:

Today, obesity, type 2 diabetes and heart disease are more common in the poor. Unfortunately, the least expensive foods available are those that are highly processed, and frequently contain refined flour and sugar. The poor often find it difficult to afford quality meat and vegetables, and frequently rely on packaged food and fast food outlets for cheap, nutritionally deplete food that satisfies hunger. But the poor are not the only ones that partake in breads, pastries, pastas, and sugar-laden desserts, and they are certainly not the only ones to suffer from overfatness, heart disease, hypertension, gout, type 2 diabetes, osteoporosis, arthritis and cancer, all which have been linked to refined carbohydrates and sugar consumption.

Much of the research quoted goes back several decades, but what is obvious is that as time goes on, food becomes more and more processed, and sugar is added at every stage, for 'flavour-enhancing' and for its preservative properties. And that food is more and more of the 'convenience' type requiring little cooking. The numerous 'ready meals' available in supermarkets seem to take up more and more space as time goes on. Most people have no idea what is contained in the food that they buy and eat, and they don't care, so long as it is tasty. I read recently a quote which said 'Food should be eaten sitting at a table, and a desk is not a table'.

Margaret

Mrs_pbradley936

I am not sure how much is due to luck or expectations but I am almost 60 and have never had any problems of any kind. Last period 5 years ago and I do have a Mirena coil but doctor said to leave it in place because if/when I do take HRT that covers one part of it. I have friends that have tried to come off it but gone back because they feel miserable without it. I have another friend who has come off it does not want to go back to it and drives us all mad with her moans and groans to the point where we all tell her to start taking it again!

balmaiden

I had a hysterectomy when I was 38, I am now 52, my ovaries were left. I obviously have no periods so really have no idea where I am in the menpause "run". I have no symptoms whatsoever, am I just lucky? ( I hope so judging by the suffering of some who have posted) or would I be putting things down to the "menopause" if my periods were erratic?

candygirl

Just a warning for any women who might have suffered from endometriosis, pre menopause.It isn't recommended for them to take oestrogen, either synthetically or in plant form of phyto oestrogens during the menopause as it can reactivate the microscopic endo particles which can then regrow,and you're back to square one:(

carol_a_3

I've just started reading a book that was recommended to me by a couple of people called "The passage to power" by Leslie Kenton. It's really interesting and says that giving oestrogen just makes the problems of peri-menopause and menopause worse and that it's natural progesterone that women usually need. Most HRT contains a little bit of progesterone but mainly oestogen I think. I'm 53 and so far haven't had any hot flushes, just heavy and irregular periods although I do suffer from anxiety, forgetfulness etc but have already been hypothyroid for about 12 years so I'm used to that.

Mrs_pbradley936

Do you have to pay for HRT on the NHS? What made me ask is someone mentioned getting it via the internet and a few of my American friends do (no health service) but internet pharmacies are not much used by people in the UK, athough they are extremely popular in the USA.

candygirl

Mrs_pbradley936 wrote: »

Do you have to pay for HRT on the NHS? What made me ask is someone mentioned getting it via the internet and a few of my American friends do (no health service) but internet pharmacies are not much used by people in the UK, athough they are extremely popular in the USA.

If you still pay for your prescriptions, yes unfortunately:mad: :mad:

buxtonrabbitgreen

I was quite interested in reading this thread too . My periods simply stopped 14 months ago. I am 54. After about 6 months of no problems, I was thinking this is a breeze I don't know what people complain about. But now I am having hot flushes, night sweats, migraines, piles, boils, and bouts of tearfullness, for no reason. I am reluctant to go to the doctor as I am not into drugs at all. And am hoping it will just pass. I remember my mother going through the menopause. As far as I know the only symptoms she had were the migraines and I don't think it lasted all that long. So I am hoping it will be the same for me. I now empathise with the programme grumpy old women. I too forget words. Very annoying for a scrabble playing crossword fan.