Speeding fine

Mikeyorks

advantix wrote: »

but, from experience of issuing these tickets (used to be a police officer)

That's a brave admission!;)

In my experience, from being on the other end of the gun, the police delight in showing you the captured speed! And it does tend to stick in one's mind.

mantips

how about speeding fine via hire car from abroad eg oz or kiwi. Do they persue when back in UK

sarahg1969

mantips wrote: »

how about speeding fine via hire car from abroad eg oz or kiwi. Do they persue when back in UK

If you want some useful advice on this issue, get yourself on to the forums at https://www.pepipoo.com.

There will be someone there who will be able to advise on foreign speeding tickets.

Zanzibar

mantips - re. your question - you get the speeding note in the form of a fine demand complete with picture of the offence if it was a camera offence - e.g. passing red light in Australia is what I had.

You can then pay over the Internet - no points though. It was about £60, 2 years back. You could just ignore the fine but if you ever go back they will flag you up - possibly not letting you into the country! Though Im not sure how integrated their systems are - but they are more with it IT wise than the UK usually.

pineapple

Join the club! My very first offence was last year for going a few miles over the limit. I've heard that so many motorists have been 'done' now that most insurers don't pay too much attention. £60 and 3 points is standard. Unfortunately a driving course as an alternative to penalty points is not an option in some areas. It wasn't in mine.

johng_uk

Hi Raggydoll,

I got £60 fine and 3 points for doing 41 in a 30. It didn't affect my insurance quote at all.

Alexander_Pato

I got caught doing 72mph in 40mph zone, i was lucky to only get 3 points, as i told the pig i was on my way to work. I was lucky i werent banned!

Tojo_Ralph

mantips wrote: »

how about speeding fine via hire car from abroad eg oz or kiwi. Do they persue when back in UK

Yes with a capital Y and the Ozzies will prosecute for a couple of KPH over the odds. ... Some hire car companies will simply pay the fine on your behalf and charge it to your card (you agree to this in the small print) and others that are a pain will supply your details to the police and charge you for doing so. In the latter case, the police will then send you a NIP and you invariably need to supply CC details to pay the fine.

As for fines, it really depends on which state or territory you got caught in as fines vary incredibly.

bargepole

I’ve been a member of the forums on www.pepipoo.com for 4 years now (under the same username – check out the postings), and in that time I’ve been zapped three times for alleged speeding. On all three occasions, I declined to pay the £60 Fixed Penalty Notice, and opted to go to court to make them prove their case.

On the first occasion, the CPS failed to produce their witness (camera op) or the videotape, so the case was dismissed and I recovered £130 in costs. The second one didn’t even get into court, as on the day of the hearing, the CPS decided to withdraw the prosecution due to “insufficient evidence”. The third one involved a legal argument about whether the CPS could have an adjournment to prepare their case fully, the magistrates said they’d already had enough time, so another dismissal and £108 costs to me.

So my score is: Fines Paid = £0, Costs Recovered = £238, Points on Licence = none.

I also took on another 21 cases on behalf of some of the drivers at my former employer, and successfully got the case discontinued, or dismissed in court, on 17 of these.

One of these cases involved a driver who was clearly under the 70 limit on a dual carriageway, when the camera op started frantically zig-zagging the beam across the rear of his car until it showed a reading of 85. We forced disclosure of the videotape, and submitted our expert’s analysis to the police and the court.

In court, the Clerk first made a great play of emphasising that if he pleaded guilty now, he’d get a lower fine than if the case continued. We said no dice, and then a red-faced prosecutor stood up and said they couldn’t offer any evidence, as the camera op had “retired from the force”. Case dismissed, full costs to defendant. I still have a copy of this videotape showing just how unreliable their “evidence” can be.

So there you have it, a completely unreliable and unjust system designed to scam drivers out of thousands of pounds based on false assumptions. But, if you’re prepared to fight, you can get justice, and the hours of preparation are all worthwhile when you get into court and see the thunderous look on the faces of the police and prosecutors when the magistrates say “case dismissed!”

Happychappy

Alexander_Pato wrote: »

I got caught doing 72mph in 40mph zone, i was lucky to only get 3 points, as i told the pig i was on my way to work. I was lucky i werent banned!

Chav, you were lucky as everybody else goes to court at that speed threshold, maybe it was your charm which swayed him :rolleyes: