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Immoral Angel's Debt Diary - Part 16,342...

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  • immoral_angeluk
    immoral_angeluk Posts: 24,506 Forumite
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    Ellidee wrote: »
    Why would you need a special stand just for jaffa cakes ? It's not like they're an odd shape or anything. :confused: Now if they were rabbit shaped or something ......
    If jaffas get a special stand I want a special stand for MY rabbits..
    Total 'Failed Business' Debt £29,043
    Que sera, sera. <3
  • Ellidee
    Ellidee Posts: 6,216 Forumite
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    If jaffas get a special stand I want a special stand for MY rabbits..

    Hmm wonder what shape that receptacle would be ? :rolleyes:
    Nothing is so fatiguing as the eternal hanging on of an uncompleted task. William James
  • barnaby-bear
    barnaby-bear Posts: 4,142 Forumite
    If jaffas get a special stand I want a special stand for MY rabbits..
    Jaffa cakes are CAKES not biscuits - cakes are 0% VAT rated being "essential" biscuits at 17.5% being "luxuries" - buying Jaffas and not biscuits deprives nasty Dr. Gordon Brown of revenue... very DFW :rotfl:What VAT rating are the rabbits?
  • immoral_angeluk
    immoral_angeluk Posts: 24,506 Forumite
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    Jaffa cakes are CAKES not biscuits - cakes are 0% VAT rated being "essential" biscuits at 17.5% being "luxuries" - buying Jaffas and not biscuits deprives nasty Dr. Gordon Brown of revenue... very DFW :rotfl:What VAT rating are the rabbits?
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    Total 'Failed Business' Debt £29,043
    Que sera, sera. <3
  • barnaby-bear
    barnaby-bear Posts: 4,142 Forumite
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    Luxury or Essential :confused:
  • Spendless
    Spendless Posts: 24,686 Forumite
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    She's too young to remember the court case b-b. I'm not though:o :p

    Under UK law, no VAT is charged on biscuits and cakes — they are "zero rated". Chocolate covered biscuits, however, are subject to VAT at 17.5%. McVities classed its Jaffa Cakes as cakes, but in 1991, this was challenged by Her Majesty's Customs and Excise and the case ended up before the courts.[5] This may have been because Jaffa Cakes are about the same size and shape as some types of biscuit. A question that the court asked itself was "what criteria should be used to class something as a cake?"
    McVities defended its classification of Jaffa Cakes as cakes. In doing so it produced a giant Jaffa Cake to illustrate that its Jaffa Cakes were simply mini cakes.
    McVities argued that a distinction between cakes and biscuits is, inter alia, that biscuits would normally be expected to go soft when stale, whereas cakes would normally be expected to go hard. It was demonstrated to the Tribunal that Jaffa Cakes become hard when stale. Other factors taken into account by the Chairman, Mr Potter QC, included: name; ingredients; texture; size; packaging; marketing; presentation; appeal to children; manufacturing process. Contrary to a commonly held belief, whether something is considered a 'luxury item' is not a test for VAT purposes.
    Mr Potter ruled that the Jaffa Cake is a cake. He further ruled that, if it is relevant, it is not a biscuit. McVities therefore won the case and VAT is not paid on Jaffa Cakes.[
  • barnaby-bear
    barnaby-bear Posts: 4,142 Forumite
    Spendless wrote: »
    She's too young to remember the court case b-b. I'm not though:o :p

    Under UK law, no VAT is charged on biscuits and cakes — they are "zero rated". Chocolate covered biscuits, however, are subject to VAT at 17.5%. McVities classed its Jaffa Cakes as cakes, but in 1991, this was challenged by Her Majesty's Customs and Excise and the case ended up before the courts.[5] This may have been because Jaffa Cakes are about the same size and shape as some types of biscuit. A question that the court asked itself was "what criteria should be used to class something as a cake?"
    McVities defended its classification of Jaffa Cakes as cakes. In doing so it produced a giant Jaffa Cake to illustrate that its Jaffa Cakes were simply mini cakes.
    McVities argued that a distinction between cakes and biscuits is, inter alia, that biscuits would normally be expected to go soft when stale, whereas cakes would normally be expected to go hard. It was demonstrated to the Tribunal that Jaffa Cakes become hard when stale. Other factors taken into account by the Chairman, Mr Potter QC, included: name; ingredients; texture; size; packaging; marketing; presentation; appeal to children; manufacturing process. Contrary to a commonly held belief, whether something is considered a 'luxury item' is not a test for VAT purposes.
    Mr Potter ruled that the Jaffa Cake is a cake. He further ruled that, if it is relevant, it is not a biscuit. McVities therefore won the case and VAT is not paid on Jaffa Cakes.[

    :o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o
    That giant Jaffa cake was a formative part of my youth....:D:D:D The only time a national court case caught teenagers attention :rotfl:
    Didn't know about the luxury not being part of the definition - although I thought it carried soe weight. McDonalds milkshakes used to be 0% on takeout but 17.5% on eat in....
    1991 so IA was 5:eek: and 6 years ago still legally a child :eek: It's quite humbling to see how much she has done off her own back AND then remember how young she is....
  • immoral_angeluk
    immoral_angeluk Posts: 24,506 Forumite
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    :o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o
    That giant Jaffa cake was a formative part of my youth....:D:D:D The only time a national court case caught teenagers attention :rotfl:
    Didn't know about the luxury not being part of the definition - although I thought it carried soe weight. McDonalds milkshakes used to be 0% on takeout but 17.5% on eat in....
    1991 so IA was 5:eek: and 6 years ago still legally a child :eek: It's quite humbling to see how much she has done off her own back AND then remember how young she is....
    shame I feel about 40....


    on a seperate note CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP!
    *cue frantic tidying*
    Total 'Failed Business' Debt £29,043
    Que sera, sera. <3
  • barnaby-bear
    barnaby-bear Posts: 4,142 Forumite
    shame I feel about 40....


    on a seperate note CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP!
    *cue frantic tidying*

    Pssst won't MArtin's girlfriend need a hen party or do you reckon she'll have to go over to Old Style and knit her a rabbit probably involving stardrops.....
  • barnaby-bear
    barnaby-bear Posts: 4,142 Forumite
    shame I feel about 40....


    on a seperate note CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP!
    *cue frantic tidying*
    Trust me once you hit 30 you feel older - those 80 year olds who run around claiming they feel 18 are liars!!!!! If you want to do something with your life do it now before the Alztheimers and the aches set in (at about 25 IIRC)! Ohh dear you already appear to be doing so :TGood luck.
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