New sash bay windows

mr_rush

A friend is thinking about buy a flat down the road from me. The living room has an 8 foot high sash bay window that looks pretty rotten. We're pretty certain that it will need replacing. Any idea of costs? thanks

macduf

What are the width sizes?

mr_rush

two are 80 cm in width, the centre one is 110 cm

mr_rush

bump please

crystalclear

We have just had new windows at our house inc bay, but the price was for the whole job so can't help with an individual price.
Technically a bay is classed for pricing purposes as 3 windows (at least it was in the quotes we had). So if you call around a few places from the yellow pages for a quote for 3 windows and give the sizes this should at least give you a ball park figure.
You could get prices for wooden or UPVC. I would think UPVC would be the cheapest and also look very realistic in sash now. HTH

mr_rush

thanks
I've been told £3500 for the bay - wooden, insulated, double glazed

salbot

Hello,

I had a quote for a new sash window, its about 6 ft high and 4 ft wide, the quote was £1400. I decided to keep the old one, oven though its popping out of the wall! I am in Leeds.

Cheers

Salbot

rooo

Ours was £1800 all in for a bay - double glazed, insulated, primed and fitted.

We saved quite a lot of money by having dummy sashes - they look virtually identical, but the top 'sash' opens outwards rather than sliding, which prevents a lot of the causes of draughts.

sashman

Cost vary with quality and material choice.

You can pay £2,000 for a hand crafted wooden replica sash or £200 for a cheap and nasty plastic casement.

Google "Buyers guide sash windows", good companies will provide advice, especially good specialist local installers.

FENSA (www.fensa.org) lists those installation companies (12,000 odd) that are registered for the self certification that they have installed products in accordance with the building regulations. They do not guarantee quality, nor do they resolve any complaints (other than if something is technically within the regulations)

The GGF (Glass and Glazing Federation www.ggf.org ) however vet the financials of every member prior to membership, and do offer an arbitration service (FREE to the public) and guarantees customer deposits so look for their membership details.

All products should be fit for purpose, however the Police look for products that have enhanced security (better than average), BS7950 specifies the level of this improved security, so look out for SBD approved products (VERY few sash window companies have SBD so check sbd web site www.sbd.org )

Also check products have BBA (British Board of Agreement). They are independent test house that certifies products will last for 20,000 opening cycles (approx 20 years life), again this is not a requirement but good evidence that the company has products that deliver what’s claimed. Again very few companies have BBA on sash windows.

Then check out the EST web site (very poor site but….) Energy Savings Trust recommend products those products that are the best 20% in the industry so you don’t have to make comparisons, products listed ARE the best 20% in the industry. C rated sash windows should save 74% of the heat that would be lost through a single glazed sash window, an A rated (there’s only one certified) saves ALL the heat lost that way!

Look for BSI kite mark that professional installation companies can now get to confirm they are professional in their workmanship, (that’s not to say others aren’t professional, but its nice to the reassurance that British Standards of installation are being met

Establish what (if any) guarantees the manufacturer passes onto you the client. Most manufactures limit their guarantees to the installer leaving you high and dry when the installer ceases trading. See if the installer belongs to a preferred installers scheme, or a manufacturers network that guarantees the workmanship of their installation partners.

Sure all these things are likely to push up the final price, but you’ll have someone to get back to if the worst should happen. Cheap products cost a fortune to put right when the installer has gone bust!!

Finally always insist on a written confirmation, get their proposal in writing so every thing is clear from the start, especially the items listed above. LOTS of companies claim to have BBA, EST, SBD but those products are non standard and will only be included if you specifically request them, and its in the contract!

Follow these pointers and you cannot go far wrong

Sashman

benood

When we moved here out sashes in the attic were completely shot no glass, rotten frames and we expected to have to replace them - but in fact they are now fully operational having been refurbished (£300 vs £2000) - look at ventrolla for the idea but there are lots of other cheaper suppliers - there was another thread a few days ago. Original sashes always look so much better than any dodgy plastic replacements