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Question about Long Term IB

Hi,

Could anyone please advise regarding when the higher rate of IB kicks in, is it 52 weeks from when you first went on the sick ie, 26 weeks SSP 26 weeks IB lower rate, or is it 52 weeks on IB, ie 26 weeks SSP then 52 weeks IB??

I dont seem to be able to fathom this one out after reading the numerous booklets Ive been supplied with from the DWP.

Im just going through the process of claiming IB and they have "Awarded" it to me at £68.20 (Short term higher rate), and I was trying to work out wether Id be due an increase in November (When I first went sick) or wether it will be May 06.

Regards
Pete

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  • CIS
    CIS Posts: 12,260 Forumite
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    I found this if its any good,

    Short-term Incapacity Benefit at the lower rate
    Paid if you do not get SSP and have been sick for at least four days in a row including weekends and public holidays, or if you qualify under the special rules for young people.

    You will only get Incapacity Benefit under the rules for young people if you have been incapable of work for 28 weeks without a break.

    Short-term Incapacity Benefit at the higher rate
    Paid if you have been sick for more than 28 weeks and less than 52 weeks. If you qualify under the rules for young people, you must have been getting Incapacity Benefit for 28 weeks.

    Long-term Incapacity Benefit
    Paid if you have been sick for over 52 weeks. If you qualify under the special rules for young people, you must have been getting Incapacity Benefit for 52 weeks.
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  • PeteB_2000
    PeteB_2000 Posts: 227 Forumite
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    reading the lsat sentance, I dont get it under the young persons rule, so the way I read it as from the first day of sick and not the first day of IB, which in my case would mean an increase in November which although not a massive amount
    would make a significant difference.
    Hope thats what its supposed to mean

    Pete
  • Ted_Hutchinson
    Ted_Hutchinson Posts: 7,142 Forumite
    From IB1 - A guide to Incapacity Benefit
    How your Incapacity Benefit is made up
    The rates of Incapacity Benefit change in April each year.
    There are three rates of Incapacity Benefit:
    • short-term (lower) Incapacity Benefit
    • short-term (higher) Incapacity Benefit
    • long-term Incapacity Benefit.
    For current rates see leaflet Social security benefit rates (GL23)
    Short-term (lower) Incapacity Benefit
    If you get Incapacity Benefit based on your National Insurance contributions, short-term (lower) Incapacity Benefit is paid for the first 28 weeks of sickness. You are not paid for the first three days of your sickness, these are known as ‘waiting days’. This applies to people who move straight onto Incapacity Benefit. If you have received 28 weeks of SSP, and qualify for benefit, you may start your entitlement at the short-term (higher) rate.
    If you get Incapacity Benefit under the youth provisions, short-term (lower) Incapacity Benefit is paid for the first 28 weeks after you become entitled.
    Short-term (lower) Incapacity Benefit is not taxable.

    Short-term (higher) Incapacity Benefit
    If you get Incapacity Benefit based on your National Insurance contributions, short-term (higher) Incapacity Benefit is payable from the 29th to the 52nd week of sickness. If you are still sick after you have had Statutory Sick Pay for 28 weeks, you may move onto shortterm (higher) Incapacity Benefit immediately. If you received Statutory Sick Pay for a period of less than 28 weeks, those days may count towards your 28 weeks of short-term (lower) Incapacity Benefit entitlement, and you may move onto short-term (higher) Incapacity
    Benefit more quickly than you would otherwise do.
    If you get Incapacity Benefit under the youth provisions, short-term (higher) Incapacity Benefit is paid after you have been getting benefit for 28 weeks. It is payable from the 29th week to the 52nd week of your entitlement.
    If you move from short-term (lower) Incapacity Benefit onto short-term (higher) Incapacity Benefit, your benefit will become taxable.
    Long-term Incapacity Benefit
    Long-term Incapacity Benefit is payable from the 53rd week of your sickness, or after you have been getting benefit for 52 weeks if you are entitled under the youth provisions, and is taxable
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  • PeteB_2000
    PeteB_2000 Posts: 227 Forumite
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    Thanks Ted, looks like I might be in luck then.....
  • Ted_Hutchinson
    Ted_Hutchinson Posts: 7,142 Forumite
    PeteB_2000 wrote:
    Thanks Ted, looks like I might be in luck then.....
    and is taxable icon8.gif so the net benefit will not be anything to get excited about.
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  • PeteB_2000
    PeteB_2000 Posts: 227 Forumite
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    ho hum anything is better than nothing I suppose, although isnt there some sort of age addidtion aswell???

    Under 34 = £16

    35 and above (what the limit is I dont know) = £8

    Pete
  • Tharweb
    Tharweb Posts: 1,199 Forumite
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    PeteB_2000 wrote:
    ho hum anything is better than nothing I suppose, although isnt there some sort of age addidtion aswell???

    Under 34 = £16

    35 and above (what the limit is I dont know) = £8

    Pete

    For info. the age limit is 44.
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