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EcoFlow/MotoFlow

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  • LandyAndy
    LandyAndy Posts: 26,377 Forumite
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    rke wrote: »
    Very gracious of you.

    I've actually classified you as " STOOOPID"

    However, foollishly ( myself that is), I actually thought this was a serious forum dedicated to saving/making money.

    Obviously I was wrong.

    :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

    You're such a caution.

    :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
  • LandyAndy
    LandyAndy Posts: 26,377 Forumite
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    Mmmm.

    Spam fried in snake oil.

    One for the 'Old Style' board I think.
  • LandyAndy
    LandyAndy Posts: 26,377 Forumite
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    If you want a good laugh and wide range of ways to be parted from your money try the website.

    http://www.magnetsforall.com/
  • Wig
    Wig Posts: 14,139 Forumite
    This one's even better, magnetic wine!
    http://www.ecomagnets.com/ecoflow.htm
  • goldspanners
    goldspanners Posts: 5,910 Forumite
    Wig wrote: »
    This one's even better, magnetic wine!
    http://www.ecomagnets.com/ecoflow.htm

    did you see this at the bottom of your link.



    electrolyte mineral supplement


    Nutriflow is an electrolyte mineral supplement designed to complement Bioflow®, help maintain a healthy pH balance and increase energy levels.


    just drink the juice from an old car battery,it electrolyte in there!

    (dont kids im only kidding).
    ...work permit granted!
  • rke_2
    rke_2 Posts: 6 Forumite
    Wig wrote: »
    This one's even better, magnetic wine!
    http://www.ecomagnets.com/ecoflow.htm

    Assuming the iranians haven't bought them all!

    IRANIAN OIL MAGNATE CUTS EMISSIONS USING 1.2 MILLION FUEL MAGNETS!
    http://www.world-wire.com/news/0519050001.html

    And just to avoid any other "newbie" being accused of spamming my conclusion is that;

    (1) Does not appear to be any credible scientific evidence to support the applied effectiveness of magnets attached to a fuel stream;

    (2) much of the anecdotal evidence is usually attached to commercial interests.

    Finally, if you want to give it a try by diy checkout:

    http://www.emanator.demon.co.uk/bigclive/magnet.htm

    Supp txts

    http://www.reviewcentre.com/review168236.html

    I was handed an Ecoflow leaflet in June 2006, so don't understand the reference to Motoflow having replaced this brand name in 2005, but assuming we're discussing the same product and manufacturer (Ecolflow), it might interest potential buyers to note that a complaint against the claims of scientific testing was upheld by the Advertising Standards Authority in 2002 who ordered the company to stop using references to the Warren Springs Laboratory test in its advertising. The grounds were that the test was flawed and carried out on a carbureted, pre-catalytic vehicle no longer representative of modern vehicles.
    http://www.asa.org.uk/asa/adjudications/non_broadcast/Adjudication+Details.htm?adjudication_id=33701

    The leaflet I was handed, which has a reference number ECO-12109 if that helps anyone to identify it, still uses this reference!

    I have spent a whole morning researching online, looking for an independent test of this product, and have failed to find one, or any identifiable reference to one. My feeling is that if this product worked and conferred an economic benefit that offset the cost within a reasonable period, then it should be possible to come up with a scientific test clearly demonstrating such results. Anecdotal evidence can always be found to support the efficacy of anything I'm afraid.

    http://www.ybw.com/forums/printthread.php/Cat/0/Board/pbo/main/1722259/type/thread

    I have no idea or opinion s to whether or not it would work for controlling "bugs" in the fuel. As far as engine performance goes, I agree with pretty much everyone else - it's complete bunkum!!! Some years ago, I worked at a university where someone had done a bit of research into "fuel magnets" Whilst i is true that one could polarise big hyddrocarbon molecules, it does need a very strong magnetic field and as soon as the fuel leaves the field, the molecules revert back to their previous state within milliseconds - they certainly are NOT polarised by the time they go into the combustion chamber!




  • tomstickland
    tomstickland Posts: 19,538 Forumite
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    rke wrote: »
    However, foollishly ( myself that is), I actually thought this was a serious forum dedicated to saving/making money.

    Obviously I was wrong.
    It is, hence why such devices are regarded as old tat.
    The air bleed device is the "ecotek" valve. None are worth it.

    I love this
    Lower heating bills, reduced emissions - for oil & gas boilers - simply straps to the gas or oil pipe for more efficient use - Are you fitted?
    To improve the taste and smoothness of wines with elegant looks for the table in this easy to use product.

    Aha
    The results of laboratory testing on petrol and diesel engines fitted with an Ecoflow product confirm the positive benefits of financial savings, ...

    "confirm the benefits of financial savings". Yes, I can confirm that financial savings are a benefit.

    Most customers report fuel savings of between 5-20% for vehicles and up to 30% for heating boilers, a cleaner combustion area, and better performance.


    That is a vey bold claim to make. Notice how it's only "most" though. That's so when you test it and it doesn't do anything they can just say "oh well, you must be in the 100% for whom nothing happens".

    Happy chappy
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