Please Help Child Support Agency Problem (CSA) Quite Long Sorry

nearlyrich

Get your MP involved - thats a sure way to get noticed too.

Good advice !

calleyw

I have dealings with the CSA indirectly via my husband.

And lets put it like this if you are nice and good boy like my husband they love you and then stiff you for large amounts of money leaving us £40 a month to pay for haircuts, car maintance and presents and holidays. After paying all the bills which are as low as we can get. Don't exactly call £100 for two adults a month for food as living in the lap of luxury. As I don't work at the moment and they know that.

Anyway if you are what I would call a hard case. E.g The Parent with out care (normally the father) is making it very hard by keep changing jobs, being self employed, just plain refuses to pay etc.

They don't want to know. They what the saps like my husband who they know will pay out. He was paying for his children and then she said she did not want it his money. But held out her hand when the CSA came along and gave her wodges of money.

I do feel for you all. The CSA was a good concept but so badly designed and run. All abscent parents male or female should be made to pay towards to the upkeep of there children and should be fair on all parties.

I hope that you all get something sorted. As there are a lot of shiftless men out there who deny that the children are theres so why pay. About time some of these men had a hard kick somewhere it hurts.

Yours

Calley

musey

viktory wrote:

Isn't it a sad indictment of today's society that there are countless feckless young men who impregnant then leave, wilfully neglecting their responsibilities (and I am not just talking about fiscal responsibilities here).

Thankfully, I have never needed the services of the CSA but like any Government body they sound like they are hell to deal with. I would try and fax as much as possible, as well as sending hard copies in the post (recorded delivery).

I wish everyone who has to deal with them the very best of luck.

I appreciate what your saying, but what about the young men who are hounded for child support for a child they did not want, did not plan for and even took precautions against. If a mother choses to have a child despite the father not wanting her to have it etc etc whay should he be forced to pay for said child? In the same breath why should other tax payers be forced to subsidise a child's life? I realise this view will probably be unpopular but I am of the opinion that if you can't afford to have a child you shouldn't have one. A simplistic view I know and I'm sure there are lots of valid cases for the existence of CSA but I do feel for "feckless young men" forced into 18 yrs worth of child support for a child they didn't want.

Tabbykatt

musey wrote:

I appreciate what your saying, but what about the young men who are hounded for child support for a child they did not want, did not plan for and even took precautions against.

If a guy is adament that he does not want to have a baby then all he has to do is use a condom. Condom = No baby?** There are lots of men that assume that the woman they are sleeping with is on the pill, and yes there are some women out there who will purposely trap a man but at the end of the day that little piece of rubber will protect them against such women.. true?

musey wrote:

In the same breath why should other tax payers be forced to subsidise a child's life?

I fully agree, but as a mother who is on benefits because my ex-husband found that having 2 children was not as much fun as living the single life (and before you say it, yes he was a 100% participant in their conception), there are other factors involved in the world of single parents.

musey wrote:

A simplistic view I know and I'm sure there are lots of valid cases for the existence of CSA but I do feel for "feckless young men" forced into 18 yrs worth of child support for a child they didn't want.

Condom=No Baby?? **

(**Before anyone says this condoms are 99.9% safe, but that still only leave .01% of unwanted children, and that is based on the assumption that every broken condom creates a child?)

iluvfreebies

in response to the initial posting
I work for the CSA and from what you have said it seems as though there is an 'incident' on your case - this can be for various reasons and can happen at any stage of the case. I can assure you this is extremely frustrating for caseworkers when you have very often spend weeks/ months collecting information and then it 'disapears'. As your caseworker advised you this is something outside her control and incidents are being dealt with (or not dealt with) by the incident management team. There is no way of knowing how long it will take as it requires the problem to be fixed. What i would advise you to do to escalate the priority of the incident is to write to the customer service dept of the child support centre your case is being dealt with and send a copy to your mp. (these incidents are the only ones being worked on at present due to the ministerial pressure currently being faced by the agency - !!!! i know but thats the powers that be). Good luck in the mean time

If i can help anymore just say

Thanks

EmmaLi

What I really don't get is why all these government agencies can't actually use the National Insurance number we all get issued with to track who's earning what, where they're working, living etc. Maybe I'm being simplistic but surely that's why we have it?

calleyw

EmmaLi wrote:

What I really don't get is why all these government agencies can't actually use the National Insurance number we all get issued with to track who's earning what, where they're working, living etc. Maybe I'm being simplistic but surely that's why we have it?

I totally agree as they can get info from the benefit agency to find out if the parent with care are on prescribed benefits such as tax credits. We where told this about a fortnight ago.

Still don't understand as tax credits are dealt with by the tax office. So they share there info with the benefit agency and then the csa can look this info up.

Yours

Calley

pandas66

You would most defiently, in this day and age, think by tapping the NI no's in a gov dept such as CSA it would ping all the deatails to hand instaed of making me and most parents with care the investigater. My time and sanity is valuable as is any parent with care and those that have to monitor the whereabouts of 'other parent'.
I would like to see a 'fine/penalty' clause in all the bumf (sp) introduced payable to those that gain the information. Might get the ball rolling a little quicker.
I would like the arrears situation looked at and 'fine/penalty' clause introduced if at any time a portion could have been paid.
I would like a portion of 'parent with care' salary protected. Seems mine is all spoken for and I can't hold any just for me.
I would like redundancy payments/bonus scheme looked at, obviously this could be salary linked so if there was a 20% bonus paid the kids may get a portion.

newfunk

calleyw wrote:

I have dealings with the CSA indirectly via my husband.

And lets put it like this if you are nice and good boy like my husband they love you and then stiff you for large amounts of money leaving us £40 a month to pay for haircuts, car maintance and presents and holidays. After paying all the bills which are as low as we can get. Don't exactly call £100 for two adults a month for food as living in the lap of luxury. As I don't work at the moment and they know that.

Anyway if you are what I would call a hard case. E.g The Parent with out care (normally the father) is making it very hard by keep changing jobs, being self employed, just plain refuses to pay etc.

They don't want to know. They what the saps like my husband who they know will pay out. He was paying for his children and then she said she did not want it his money. But held out her hand when the CSA came along and gave her wodges of money.

I do feel for you all. The CSA was a good concept but so badly designed and run. All abscent parents male or female should be made to pay towards to the upkeep of there children and should be fair on all parties.

I hope that you all get something sorted. As there are a lot of shiftless men out there who deny that the children are theres so why pay. About time some of these men had a hard kick somewhere it hurts.

Yours

Calley

Calley i totally agree with you!
The CSA is a good concept, but like your husband, i had been totally upfront and honest, which left me paying £120 a week from my income of £270... After countless phone calls argueing with them, explaining that my Ex left me so much in debt etc etc, and that she was living with her boyfriend who paid for everything. There reply was, we do not take into consideration the partners income...

In the same breath they asked me how much my partner earnt, as this would affect my disposable income, which would have meant me paying more!! In the end they made me ill with stress and I lost my job, I havent heard from them since,and regardless of what people think i will be self employed and avoid the CSA for as long as I can! This does not mean I do not pay anything for my kids, as I pay £200 a month......She gets child benefit, tax credits etc...he is self employed and doesnt pay a penny for his kids.....and they were the ones who hadthe affair.....THE WHOLE SYSTEM STINKS!!!....

calleyw

the system is not fair no matter what side you are on.

My husband pays so don't tar all absent fathers with the same brush.

we are left with £40 a month after all bills have gone out as I don't work we don't get any benefits or tax credits.

We don't smoke, we don't have a TV. But his ex and her husband can both afford to smoke and have sky. But we do run a car. If not husband could not get to work. No work means no money.

Is that fair.

No but we have to bite the bullet and put up with it.

Yours

Calley