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  • kunekune wrote: »
    might even get better teaching at these places, the top ones tend to leave the students to get on with it by themselves! You would certainly get more and better feedback on your assignments ...

    Bit of a generalisation there! I was at UCL, one of the top Unis for law, and there was fantastic teaching and very thorough feedback.
    kunekune wrote: »
    While it is true that students from Oxbridge, etc, are going to find it easier to find jobs than those from Huddersfield, say, they both are offering a qualifying law degree. Remember though that even after you have the LLB, you need to do the LPC or Bar Vocational course. It is only the first step.

    And the LPC / BVC is the expensive bit!
    kunekune wrote: »
    There are alternatives to university if you want a legal career. One route is to train as a legal executive - eventually, you can qualify as a solicitor, and you can be working the whole time. There is info about that on the ILEX website.

    Great advicefrom this posted, OP - hope you follow it!
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  • kunekune
    kunekune Posts: 1,909 Forumite
    I will not expand on why I know any of this stuff (you may well guess but I won't comment), but let's say I'm not a student any more. I am reluctant to comment on the OP's communication skills as they are not as bad as they could be (did you know that there was a theory that life ended after marriage for victorian women?). Also, I believe, with bells on, that the legal profession benefits from more varied entry, and that with good teaching we can bring people up to what's required.

    Not every uni in the Russell Group is slapdash, that was a broad (though not completely without foundation) generalistion. However, there is no getting around the fact that those who try studying law need to understand that it is a very difficult subject. Lawyers think differently from everyone else in the world. Perhaps it can be taught but I have an awful suspicion we're born that way.
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  • kunekune wrote: »
    I will not expand on why I know any of this stuff (you may well guess but I won't comment), but let's say I'm not a student any more. Also, I believe, with bells on, that the legal profession benefits from more varied entry, and that with good teaching we can bring people up to what's required. .

    In my experience (I'm a barrister) what uni a person went to is very, very important for getting pupillage and tenancy.
    kunekune wrote: »
    Not every uni in the Russell Group is slapdash, that was a broad (though not completely without foundation) generalistion. However, there is no getting around the fact that those who try studying law need to understand that it is a very difficult subject. Lawyers think differently from everyone else in the world. Perhaps it can be taught but I have an awful suspicion we're born that way.

    I fear you may be right! My poor son has two parents and one grandparent who are barristers, and an uncle at bar school (-:
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • maybe this thread could be moved to the student section?
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  • Phirefly
    Phirefly Posts: 1,605 Forumite
    maybe this thread could be moved to the student section?

    Thats actually a far more worthwhile contribution to this thread than I could manage
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