lying on a CV/Interview

lipidicman

justpaper wrote:

u too' (try 'you two' here) 'need to go back to sleep, fraudulent CV ??!?! oh my days

Oh well, I guess you win the argument then. Brilliant reasoning.

You did ask ' just want to know what other ppls views are on this?'. We have given you our views and then you get all sniffy about it. Looking at the replies it would seem that most people agree with 'us two'. In fact I think I will go back to sleep, safe in the knowledge that there are plenty of people to support my comments whilst I snooze.

rushnowt

It may be naughty but I've bent the truth a little now then then to get the jobs i've wanted and know i could do in the past, It never bothered me, I was never found out and I slept at night no problem.

If you beleive that everyone is 100 % honest in everything they do and say in life, I think you'd be wrong, we're all capable of bending the truth and telling fibs occassionally, I don't know 1 single person that hasn't.

Just mho

Good luck xxx

lipidicman

I certainly dont 'beleive that everyone is 100 % honest in everything they do and say in life'. But I stand by my opinion that if you make outright false claims on a CV then a) it is not acceptable and b) it may well catch up with you

rushnowt

lipidicman wrote:

I certainly dont 'beleive that everyone is 100 % honest in everything they do and say in life'. But I stand by my opinion that if you make outright false claims on a CV then a) it is not acceptable and b) it may well catch up with you

My post wasn't aimed at anyone, just putting my own personal views across.
I wasn't judging anyones choice or beliefs, we're all entitled to our own opinions.

To me personally, lying on a CV is just not a big deal, and I wouldn't hesitate in doing so if the need arose.

However if your saying that not being truthful on a CV is not acceptable neither is any kind of lie or truth that has been bent, it's all the same really however we do it.

I'm not saying I would pretend to be a managing director of a company or anything, that would just be downright stoopid :rotfl: although I guess having my own business I could actually say that :cool:

justpaper

lipidicman wrote:

Oh well, I guess you win the argument then. Brilliant reasoning.

You did ask ' just want to know what other ppls views are on this?'. We have given you our views and then you get all sniffy about it. Looking at the replies it would seem that most people agree with 'us two'. In fact I think I will go back to sleep, safe in the knowledge that there are plenty of people to support my comments whilst I snooze.

i was getting late for work this morning so i just typed the msg out quick, when i said "u need to go back too sleep" i was referring too ur comment about my english, which may i add is a cracking comment u made when reading a few of my posts in this theard :T

i honestly have no problem with ur view on the matter, but ur taking the !!!!!! by saying i wasnt giving the job due to my english, i do agree that i dont spend much time on my grammer when posting on diff/ forums or emails,.
i dont know how u can possibly think ur comment was even vaild as u dont know me enuff to pass that type of judgement, but if u think ur telepathic then u need to talk too some one in a suit, and my friend i did not ask for ur views on why i did not get the job

and if adding 6 months of call handling experience on my CV to get a job to earn money to live in this (captialistic) world makes my CV a fraudulent CV then im a Fraudster* lock me up

and just a thought its ok for politictions to lie and get elected to be prime minister/president, after all they think they can all do the job

lipidicman

justpaper wrote:

and if adding 6 months of call handling experience on my CV to get a job to earn money to live in this (captialistic) world makes my CV a fraudulent CV then im a Fraudster* lock me up

Maybe you could add 'Fraudster' to your CV!

I'm tired of this argument, I think a lot of people felt the same way about CV fraud. What more can I say?

MissSunshine

Know the OP isn't proposing what this guy did, but if you are going to 'add in' a fake job that you put it at least 3-4 jobs back in time, as they'll want ref's from your 2 previous employers

nemo183

There are 2 different things here - 1) massaging your CV to maybe slightly over do things - fine.

2) Telling outright lies. This is to be avoided at all costs. It includes upgrading of any exam result - at any level - a complete no-brainer. I've spent 20 yrs in recruitment - get a good job, and at some point personnel will ask to see your certs - if your certs don't match your CV, then kiss goodbye to the job. Stupid thing is, be straight, if they want you, the grades don't matter. Lie, and it's a matter of trust and you'll be walking away with a plastic sack.

So, make sure your written CV is brief and snowy white.

Make the most of what you've done verbally - if they want you, they want you.

In the worst case, what will hang you is your written CV - so make sure it's clean. Your written CV can destroy you at any time if it's not true. I've seen global banks dump great people on the basis of a single grade update - it's all about trust. And i'm not talking 2.1 or 2.2 degree - i'm talking b or c french - at GCSE grade.

Dammam

I've upped my exam grades a bit - figured it was so long ago that no-one will bother checking. So far they haven't :-) (I don't even know where my certs are now).
I see the CV as a way of getting your foot in the door. Many companies are so overwhelmed with applications that they sift through the minimum qualifications first.
I know of someone who borrowed someone elses CV ostensibly to get an idea of the style required. He just changed the name, date of birth etc and applied with the other guys qualifications - got the job. (My mate was well p****d off as it was a better job than his). This guy had the gift of the gab, I've known plenty of others who have got jobs/promotions way beyond their perceived ability because they talk a good job.
There's always a risk if you "over egg" your CV, but if you do so in the knowledge that you may get found out, then I don't see a problem

impecunious

Let's forget the morals for one moment and concentrate on giving some sound advice, eh?

The problem of dealing with inexperience in a particular field can easily be overcome by using "transferable skills". For instance, when the interviewer asks "have you any experience in handling incoming calls", you can honestly answer "yes" - assuming that you do have a home phone, mobile etc. We get called all the time by friends, family, even by those annoying cold-callers!! We conduct business over the phone all the time, even if it's in relation to gas, electricity, banks, whatever, don't we?

In my experience, interviewers also give credit in how you answer the questions they ask.