DONT install messenger PLus

calibrax

Incidentally, it took me 30 seconds to find, on the msgplus forums, a thread explaining exactly how to remove the spyware :

http://www.msghelp.net/showthread.php?tid=21598

Steve

Browntoa

found this posted elsewhere

Unfortunately for lop.com, their tactics have gained them the attention of Lavasoft, maker of Ad-aware. Starting with version 5.7, Ad-aware started targeting lop.com along with a number of browser hijackers. Spybot S&D also target and remove lop.com software. Ad-aware and Spybot both updated recently to target xupiter.com's software as well. Although we used to provide manual removal instructions for lop.com, we now recommend that you simply use Spybot to remove both lop.com and xupiter.

try running them both in safe mode on your Pc

sra

I don't use IE much but but for when I do, I have IEspyad installed with it. (tutorial here - post 2)

IEspyad puts a huge list of sites in your restricted zone

Both lop.com and http://www.msgplus.net/ are restricted by IEspyad.

In fact when I'm about to download something, I often swich to IE just to see if it's coming from a restricted site

That combined with sp2 means I haven't had a piece of spyware in six months

daveboy

shrek101 wrote:

Theres lodas od infor like I said I spent teh alst few hours trying to rid the computers of this but it keeps coming back and apparenrently it behaves dffferently on each pc so it can reside in different registry enties.

Thsi has nothing to do with MSN the program delibraetly install spyware

http://www.techmonkeys.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=706

I laugh at the fact that all MSE users are fully accepting of poor spelling.

I pity your children, if you have them.

shrek101

I am angry because this program was used mainly by young people and children, children aren't always aware of the consequences of installing software, my main concern is this software provides links to gambling and !!!!!!. If you have children you cant be there all the time to monitor what they do. I have set system rights up but I am reluctant because when it comes to them wanting to do something, I might to go keep going back to there PC.

I take every opportunity to keep the pc secure, ie firewall through router, AVG, Norton security firewall, the cleaner, seek n destory amongst other stuff to. I try and tell them not to use IE and have Firefox V1.04 installed.

But kids are kids and I cant be there all the time. I main concern is this rubbish shouldn't be allowed in software that is designed for children. The author should be ashamed of him/her self, and I hope that they don't experince similar problems if they have children.

I resent you impligations that in order for children to be on the net they should be monitored, what sort of world is this? MY god lets wrap all our kids with cotton wool and be done with it. I live in a !!!!ty street with idiots that use the pavemnets to drive on, my kids have no where to play, there only pleasure is the computer, and now nasty low lives want to take that away from them.

calibrax wrote:

Why be angry with the company? It's not their fault. It's quite clear when installing that you don't have to accept the sponsor program. The company makes a useful product, and it's only free because they have a sponsor. Your kids are the ones you should be angry with!


In XP you can set up your kids on an account with no administrator rights. This would prevent them from installing stuff. Of course, if you are using something like Windows 98, that's not much use to you...

My personal opinion is that if you can't monitor what your kids are doing, then they shouldn't be on the 'net... let's face it, they could be doing much worse than installing the odd bit of spyware...

Steve

shrek101

Why dont you do something constuctive like shut up you xxxxx. I dont like your tone and have experince you nasty comment to other people in the sky thread. So do use a favour and shut up.

I was having bad day, heard of that xxxxx. I was running between 2 pc at the time so excuse my mistakes. Frankly I couldnt give a monkeys what you say.

Frankly the forums would be better without you.

daveboy wrote:

I laugh at the fact that all MSE users are fully accepting of poor spelling.

I pity your children, if you have them.

shrek101

PLease clsoe this thread, thanks mods. I can do without a certain idiot on here.

mike_paterson

shrek101 wrote:

I am angry because this program was used mainly by young people and children, children aren't always aware of the consequences of installing software, my main concern is this software provides links to gambling and !!!!!!. If you have children you cant be there all the time to monitor what they do. I have set system rights up but I am reluctant because when it comes to them wanting to do something, I might to go keep going back to there PC.

I take every opportunity to keep the pc secure, ie firewall through router, AVG, Norton security firewall, the cleaner, seek n destory amongst other stuff to. I try and tell them not to use IE and have Firefox V1.04 installed.

But kids are kids and I cant be there all the time. I main concern is this rubbish shouldn't be allowed in software that is designed for children. The author should be ashamed of him/her self, and I hope that they don't experince similar problems if they have children.

I resent you impligations that in order for children to be on the net they should be monitored, what sort of world is this? MY god lets wrap all our kids with cotton wool and be done with it. I live in a !!!!ty street with idiots that use the pavemnets to drive on, my kids have no where to play, there only pleasure is the computer, and now nasty low lives want to take that away from them.

It is your choice - you can restrict the rights if you want, or you can let the kids install anything they like. What you shouldn't do is blame the software company for your actions and those of your children. They have created a great piece of software that can be used free of charge. In my mind that makes them the good guys here. You can blame who you like about the state of society today, but this rant against a software company will not get you very far.

FYI my kids do not have install privileges and they use a fully protected browser with parental controls enabled.

calibrax

shrek101 wrote:

I am angry because this program was used mainly by young people and children, children aren't always aware of the consequences of installing software, my main concern is this software provides links to gambling and !!!!!!.

Msgplus is used by many web users to enhance the capabilities of MSN. This is EXTREMELY useful, so much so that MSN have sat up and taken notice, and have started to incorporate some of it's features into the latest versions of MSN. I'm 37 and I use it... so do many of my friends. I do understand your concerns about the sponsor program, but it does give you the option whether to install it or not. Let's face it, they didn't HAVE to give anyone that option. But your kids do have to be made aware of the consequences of installing things, otherwise this could easily happen again... maybe next time it won't be something innocuous like adware, but a malicious virus that could do a lot more damage. Or a trojan that steals your financial information...

shrek101 wrote:

I take every opportunity to keep the pc secure, ie firewall through router, AVG, Norton security firewall, the cleaner, seek n destory amongst other stuff to. I try and tell them not to use IE and have Firefox V1.04 installed.

Excellent, you have obviously read up a lot and you know what you are doing - it appears you are following all the best advice. I applaud you for that.

shrek101 wrote:

But kids are kids and I cant be there all the time. I main concern is this rubbish shouldn't be allowed in software that is designed for children. The author should be ashamed of him/her self, and I hope that they don't experince similar problems if they have children.

I disagree that this program is designed for children. It's designed for anyone who uses MSN messenger, which is not a children's program... it's an instant messenger. For example, my mother, my father and my aunt are on MSN. Most of my friends are on MSN. None of these people are under 25.

You say "this rubbish shouldn't be allowed in software". Well, if it wasn't, then there would be very little free software out there. Instead of Msgplus being a useful free item, it would be a $25 purchase. It wouldn't have millions of users, and MSN would not have been pushed to improve their software. How would you feel if they banned all adverts on TV, and instead they upped the TV licence fee by £2000 a year?

shrek101 wrote:

I resent you impligations that in order for children to be on the net they should be monitored, what sort of world is this? MY god lets wrap all our kids with cotton wool and be done with it. I live in a !!!!ty street with idiots that use the pavemnets to drive on, my kids have no where to play, there only pleasure is the computer, and now nasty low lives want to take that away from them.

Really, there's no need to get nasty with me, calling me a "nasty low life". I didn't say take it away from them... you said yourself you are concerned about !!!!!! and gambling online. Unless they are monitored, they WILL find !!!!!! and gambling sites, either by design or by accident. I'm not saying kids should be wrapped in cotton wool... just that a few basic precautions should be taken. You can disagree if you like, it was after all just my opinion, as I clearly stated.

Steve

calibrax

daveboy wrote:

I laugh at the fact that all MSE users are fully accepting of poor spelling.

I pity your children, if you have them.

That was uncalled for.

If you read shrek101's other posts, you will see that the spelling is actually correct 99% of the time. These errors you are pointing out are called TYPOS. Different thing altogether. We all make them.

Steve